mark99 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 If you wanted to swan about on the broads based on river Yare, whats max or limitation dims of bote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, mark99 said: If you wanted to swan about on the broads based on river Yare, whats max or limitation dims of bote. https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/399232/Vessel_Dimensions_Byelaws-1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted July 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 But some of the bridges are quite low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billS Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 The Yare had 500 ton coasters going up to Norwich right up to the 80's. I believe they still go up to Cantley. Bridge height is not a problem. Of course the Bure, Ant and Thurne are another story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, billS said: The Yare had 500 ton coasters going up to Norwich right up to the 80's. I believe they still go up to Cantley. Bridge height is not a problem. Of course the Bure, Ant and Thurne are another story... I thought the OP may want to go further afield if he is boating on the Broads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said: I thought the OP may want to go further afield if he is boating on the Broads Potter Heigham is a favourite to catch a few unwary boaters who do not take note of the tide tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Most of the bridges on the Yare are swing bridges when they are working so you dont have many limitations. It is if you want to visit the rest of the Broads you will struggle with a larger boat. Much over 10ft and you wont get to the northern broads most of the time at all. There are other low bridges, Potter Heigham, Wroxham, Beccles, Wayford but they are at the extremities of rivers so you wont lose much cruising. Personally I wouldn't want an air draft much over 8ft as that would rule out the River Ant above Ludham Bridge which is a beautiful area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 BigThames sailing barges also used to come up from Yarmouth to places like Beccles and Norwich. ''Read Coot Club'' by Arthur Ransome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 There is now one fixed bridge close to Norwich which prevents bigger boats getting all the way into the city. Cant remember the air draft of that one but we had to drop the arch on NC so less than 10ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanD Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 If you go The Norfolk Broads Forum you can find a host of info regarding bridge clearance, rise and fall (for both Spring and Neap tides). If you can clear Great Yarmouth and Acle bridges you can cover most of the Broads. Been there lots of times in the past, hope you too have a great time there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, AllanD said: If you go The Norfolk Broads Forum you can find a host of info regarding bridge clearance, rise and fall (for both Spring and Neap tides). If you can clear Great Yarmouth and Acle bridges you can cover most of the Broads. Been there lots of times in the past, hope you too have a great time there Apart from Wroxham and Potter Heigham bridges on the northern broads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanD Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Both Wroxham and Potter Heigham bridges are too low for most Broads cruisers. If you can clear Ludam Bridge the river Ant leads up to Barton Broad and beyond that to Stalham and Neatishead. The Ant is a beautiful river to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, AllanD said: If you go The Norfolk Broads Forum you can find a host of info regarding bridge clearance, rise and fall (for both Spring and Neap tides). If you can clear Great Yarmouth and Acle bridges you can cover most of the Broads. Been there lots of times in the past, hope you too have a great time there You do miss the prettiest bits though through Beccles, Wroxham, Wayford and Potter Heigham. Suppose you can always hire a boat to see those bits though. Would be a shame to not be able to get under Ludham though. The Ant is definitely worthy of a visit. 1 hour ago, AllanD said: Both Wroxham and Potter Heigham bridges are too low for most Broads cruisers. If you can clear Ludam Bridge the river Ant leads up to Barton Broad and beyond that to Stalham and Neatishead. The Ant is a beautiful river to explore. Not so much Wroxham but Potter Heigham is certainly becoming a problem for the hire yards. Unless you hire an old woody from Marthams which can get through on most tides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Are there many narrowboats on the Broads? I would imagine quite rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, mark99 said: Are there many narrowboats on the Broads? I would imagine quite rare? A few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no worries Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 We keep our little splitter at Stalham at the top of the Ant, as Ditchcrawler says there are quite a few narrowboats on the Broads but not many full length ones - about 45' is probably the maximum for easy turning in the narrow bits. Air draught - 7' will get you under most bridges after a check of tide tables. Potter Heigham is the exception - plenty of footage on YouTube. Mark99 - if you give us a go,avoid the school holidays, the Northern rivers will be heaving with Stella'd up holiday makers in hire boats. Out of season, however, the Broads are idyllic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, no worries said: .........….as Ditchcrawler says there are quite a few narrowboats on the Broads but not many full length ones - about 45' is probably the maximum for easy turning in the narrow bits. It is more likely to be because by law the maximum length allowed on the Broads is 14 metres (46 feet) Length Restrictions Byelaw 7 Imposes a length restriction of 14 metres (46ft) on pleasure vessels navigating in certain waters, set out in Part 2 of the Schedule. Exemptions from the length restrictions are set out in Byelaw 8. Length Exemptions 8 Byelaw 7 does not apply to any vessel: (a) first registered with the Great Yarmouth Port and Haven Commissions or the Authority on or before 31 March 1992; or (b) which is a rowing vessel; or (c) if the vessel has not since the preceding 1 January made on the stretch of water in question four passages and if also notice of the proposed passage specifying the start and finishing places has been given in writing to the Authority at least seven days before the start of the passage; or (d) while it is undergoing test or trials and is in the charge of a person bona fide employed by a boatyard provided that notice of the movement has been given to the Authority at least seven days before the start of the test or trials; or (e) which is (i) a restored sailing wherry or keel; or (ii) a replica of a sailing wherry or keel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 16 hours ago, mark99 said: Are there many narrowboats on the Broads? I would imagine quite rare? There are some and a growing number of widebeams as well. 16 hours ago, mark99 said: Are there many narrowboats on the Broads? I would imagine quite rare? They are not very popular with the locals as they take up a lot of mooring space which is in places limited to start with. 14 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: It is more likely to be because by law the maximum length allowed on the Broads is 14 metres (46 feet) Length Restrictions Byelaw 7 Imposes a length restriction of 14 metres (46ft) on pleasure vessels navigating in certain waters, set out in Part 2 of the Schedule. Exemptions from the length restrictions are set out in Byelaw 8. Length Exemptions 8 Byelaw 7 does not apply to any vessel: (a) first registered with the Great Yarmouth Port and Haven Commissions or the Authority on or before 31 March 1992; or (b) which is a rowing vessel; or (c) if the vessel has not since the preceding 1 January made on the stretch of water in question four passages and if also notice of the proposed passage specifying the start and finishing places has been given in writing to the Authority at least seven days before the start of the passage; or (d) while it is undergoing test or trials and is in the charge of a person bona fide employed by a boatyard provided that notice of the movement has been given to the Authority at least seven days before the start of the test or trials; or (e) which is (i) a restored sailing wherry or keel; or (ii) a replica of a sailing wherry or keel That is interesting because we know for a fact that there are a large number of larger flybridge cruisers in Brundall which are over 46ft and there are several dutch barges up that way as well which are well over 46ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: There are some and a growing number of widebeams as well. They are not very popular with the locals as they take up a lot of mooring space which is in places limited to start with. That is interesting because we know for a fact that there are a large number of larger flybridge cruisers in Brundall which are over 46ft and there are several dutch barges up that way as well which are well over 46ft. Maybe invoking Rule 8a ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Maybe invoking Rule 8a ? No they are a lot newer then that. ETA: It could be the "certain waters" clause perhaps. Maybe the Yare isn't on that certain waters list? Edited July 16, 2019 by Naughty Cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no worries Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: No they are a lot newer then that. ETA: It could be the "certain waters" clause perhaps. Maybe the Yare isn't on that certain waters list? Spot on Cal - the restrictions only apply to the smaller offshoots of the three main rivers, River Chet up to Loddon and the Ant above Wayford bridge are the only bits I can think of off the top of my head. Best guess is there's still about 115 miles open to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 20:44, mark99 said: Are there many narrowboats on the Broads? I would imagine quite rare? Why the hell would you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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