Longest Trailable Boat

[TheBiscuits]

http://www.tonytugboats.com

 

07810 646733

[Jim Riley]

15 hours ago, Murflynn said:

 

 

blimey - those tyres look mighty flat !!

They are only flat at the bottom, just turn them round. Perhaps you drove over a fork in the road?

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, magpie patrick said:

As an aside, can I have his contact details please? Juno is looking for adventures...

http://www.tonytugboats.com/

 

We are fully insured and can carry most cruisers up to 3 tonnes. and 26ft/32ft we have public liability insurance to 1 million and comprehensive cover for individual boats undisclosed to 50k value and 150,000 disclosed cover this value can be increased if required. this is a proper 'all singin all dancin'  trade marine insurance policy. that basically covers everything required.

[Naughty Cal]

1 hour ago, magpie patrick said:

Now that first figure is interesting - a professional "tower" has a limit of 30 feet. 

 

What I'm trying to do is work out the maximum length of boat that is LIKELY to visit an isolated canal about 4 miles long, yes someone might crane a GU Town Class in but that isn't "likely", but it looks like I should think in terms of 30-31 feet. 

 

As an aside, can I have his contact details please? Juno is looking for adventures...  

You wont go far wrong using Tony. He is a great bloke and certainly looks after the boats in his care.

[nebulae]

One thing to watch out for is that you lose "grandfather rights" at age 70 unless you make a specific application to renew any HGV elements on your licence(ie the ability to tow a trailer over 750kg) The application to renew your licence for 3 years that the DVLA send you will not preserve grandfather rights. You will also need to take a medical, If you miss out by not making the correct application,you will have to take a trailer test.

[magpie patrick]

4 minutes ago, nebulae said:

One thing to watch out for is that you lose "grandfather rights" at age 70 unless you make a specific application to renew any HGV elements on your licence(ie the ability to tow a trailer over 750kg) The application to renew your licence for 3 years that the DVLA send you will not preserve grandfather rights. You will also need to take a medical, If you miss out by not making the correct application,you will have to take a trailer test.

You also lose these rights if, like me, you have had your licence suspended due to a seizure (and presumably other reasons) - I'm not sure I want to tow Juno around anyway, but with a little 'un it would make sense.

 

At the moment though I'm working out how to accommodate these boats on a small navigation, I'm not intent on towing one myself.

[1st ade]

44 minutes ago, magpie patrick said:

At the moment though I'm working out how to accommodate these boats on a small navigation, I'm not intent on towing one myself.

Are you also working out how to permit launch / retrieve? Manoeuvring a 31ft trailer to go down the slipway in a straight line ain't easy (some of the tidal one's I've used with a seven metre RHIB were obviously designed for dinghy on trolleys, not a twin axle trailer pivoted at the back of a long wheel base 4x4)

[magpie patrick]

40 minutes ago, 1st ade said:

Are you also working out how to permit launch / retrieve? Manoeuvring a 31ft trailer to go down the slipway in a straight line ain't easy (some of the tidal one's I've used with a seven metre RHIB were obviously designed for dinghy on trolleys, not a twin axle trailer pivoted at the back of a long wheel base 4x4)

That's why the previous idea of a slip way reached through an arch in a retirement home has been dropped...

[peterboat]

On 08/06/2019 at 15:48, Alan de Enfield said:

The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3,500kg is 7 metres.

 

Just be aware of the MAM, the Boat weight, the Trailer weight and the towing vehicle weight.

 

There are some variables for 'indivisible loads' - I use to tow a glider trailer that was almost 9 metres (exc tow-bar)

 

A glider wing or fuselage is considered to be an indivisible load if it cannot practically be divided into two or more sections. A table in Regulation 7 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, as amended, contains the details of the maximum length permitted for various sorts of vehicle and trailer combinations. Item 9 of that table does normally restrict a trailer towed by a vehicle which is not a goods vehicle over 3500 kg GVW to a maximum length of 7m not including the towing hitch arrangements. However regulation 7 (3A) (a) dis-applies the requirements of that table in a number of areas including where a trailer is constructed and normally used for the conveyance of "indivisible loads of exceptional length". In this context "exceptional length" means longer than the regulations would normally permit. This exception would permit a trailer of perhaps 11m length specially constructed to carry indivisible loads such as a glider to be towed by a car or other vehicle which is not a goods vehicle over 3500 kg GVW. Note however that Regulation 7 (5) (b) still limits the length of (i) the towing vehicle to a maximum of 9.2m; and (ii) the length of the towing vehicle and trailer combination to a maximum of 25.9m unless special police notification, escorting and attendant requirements are complied with.

 

It may be worth checking with the Police (who probably will say 7m_ refer them to the above Regulation 7 (3A) (a)

I used to tow a 28 foot Adria caravan and have been stopped by the police with it, the towing vehicle was either a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 2 or a 66 Ford Galaxy Convertible [18 foot long] both were extremely good tow vehicles  well up to the job, the problem is 28 foot is more than 7 meters I think?

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, peterboat said:

I used to tow a 28 foot Adria caravan and have been stopped by the police with it, the towing vehicle was either a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 2 or a 66 Ford Galaxy Convertible [18 foot long] both were extremely good tow vehicles  well up to the job, the problem is 28 foot is more than 7 meters I think?

It is - but as an indivisible load (Boat, Glider, Caravan) it is allowed as has been noted.

[peterboat]

20 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

It is - but as an indivisible load (Boat, Glider, Caravan) it is allowed as has been noted.

I was more worried about the combined length nearly 50 foot? I have been badly overtaken in the past when the driver realised that they were maybe pushing their luck!!

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, peterboat said:

I was more worried about the combined length nearly 50 foot? I have been badly overtaken in the past when the driver realised that they were maybe pushing their luck!!

My Glider trailer was 36 feet with tow bar, +length of car (about 15 foot)

Going into Motorway services I was longer than many artic. trucks.

 

Regulation 7 (5) (b) still limits the length of (i) the towing vehicle to a maximum of 9.2m; and (ii) the length of the towing vehicle and trailer combination to a maximum of 25.9m

[Naughty Cal]

Tony's rig isn't small. 

 

 

In fact it felt very big on the little roads around Scotland on the way home!

[peterboat]

4 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

Tony's rig isn't small. 

 

 

In fact it felt very big on the little roads around Scotland on the way home!

Dodge Ram or Dakota? Both make very good tow vehicle, I had 2003 long bed Ram which made easy work of towing, and was comfortable as well

[Naughty Cal]

22 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Dodge Ram or Dakota? Both make very good tow vehicle, I had 2003 long bed Ram which made easy work of towing, and was comfortable as well

Ram.

 

Not the most comfortable for long journeys. The Toyota was far more comfortable, but the Dodge makes light work of towing.

[peterboat]

1 minute ago, Naughty Cal said:

Ram.

 

Not the most comfortable for long journeys. The Toyota was far more comfortable, but the Dodge makes light work of towing.

Mine was a 2003 single cab it could seat 3 on a bench seat in comfort, normally the double cabs are ok, it wasnt the four wheel drive model they can be a bit harsh on the ride

[GUMPY]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

It is - but as an indivisible load (Boat, Glider, Caravan) it is allowed as has been noted.

I think you may find that Caravans don't count as an indivisible load as they are not technically a load but part if the trailer.

So the limit is 7m plus drawbar.

 

I may be wrong but I dont think so as its been argued about on caravan forums for ages.

[Alan de Enfield]

3 minutes ago, Loddon said:

I think you may find that Caravans don't count as an indivisible load as they are not technically a load but part if the trailer.

So the limit is 7m plus drawbar.

 

I may be wrong but I dont think so as its been argued about on caravan forums for ages.

Good point !!

 

We had an Adria caravan that was just over 7 metres excluding draw bar and I did have discussions with the local boys in blue, but they were not worried - they just referred me to the 'indivisable' regs.

[Murflynn]

only 21ft boat length, but wouldn't fit in a motorway car park space designed for a caravan !

[peterboat]

1 hour ago, Murflynn said:

only 21ft boat length, but wouldn't fit in a motorway car park space designed for a caravan !

Nice boat

[TheBiscuits]

Just now, peterboat said:

Nice boat

Just swap that canopy for a solar panel roof and add a couple of lithiums ...

[peterboat]

3 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

Just swap that canopy for a solar panel roof and add a couple of lithiums ...

I would in a heartbeat, my megatruck has 900 watts of solar which works very well, so I think that little beauty would be perfik

[Murflynn]

47 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Nice boat

Frolic 21 replica Edwardian steam launch built by the Steam and Electric Launch Company of Wroxham.  There are dozens of these on the Thames around Henley and Marlow.  I built a cabin on it.  Unfortunately it had a noisy single cylinder Yanmar that did my head in which is why I've gone all electric.

[peterboat]

4 minutes ago, Murflynn said:

Frolic 21 replica Edwardian steam launch built by the Steam and Electric Launch Company of Wroxham.  There are dozens of these on the Thames around Henley and Marlow.  I built a cabin on it.  Unfortunately it had a noisy single cylinder Yanmar that did my head in which is why I've gone all electric.

Stunning what motor are you using? The noise of my motor annoyed me and it was very quiet really, the electric motor makes a strange noise after 5 minutes which I am hoping is sorted but wont find out until week after next

[Murflynn]

8 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Stunning what motor are you using? 

err .... no ... I sold the boat and built an electric one on a fishing launch hull; now moved on to a home designed purpose built one shortly to be launched when the sun comes out again.   Minnkota outboard power.