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1 minute ago, MartynG said:

You are not missing much excitement, as you probably know.

Yes - been down the Foss-ditch and the Witham  many times in the tin-slug.

 

The Witham is the most boring waterway in the world - the only interest is in playing 'spot the top of the telegraph poles that poke above the banks'.

 

Going thru the Glory-Hole

 

 

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1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

The Witham is the most boring waterway in the world - the only interest is in playing 'spot the top of the telegraph poles that poke above the banks'.

Not true .

I think The R.Witham is marginally less boring than the Fossdyke and feels like being in a bygone era.

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58 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

The Witham is the most boring waterway in the world - the only interest is in playing 'spot the top of the telegraph poles that poke above the banks'.

What about the Lancaster?...... And I thought you had a picture on your wall, sheeeesh! 

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48 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

What about the Lancaster?...... And I thought you had a picture on your wall, sheeeesh! 

I see the Lancaster, Hurricane, Spitfire and Dakota most days during the Summer, they pass low over the house (low enough to wave at the pilot)

 

Yes - I have a picture of it taken from the Dakota when they were flying over Ladybower Dam (replicating the Dam-Busters practice flights)

 

A friend was (before retiring) one of the Lancaster Pilots. he was CO at Cranwell but decided to take demotion to be allowed to fly it.

(They only allow Squadron leaders & below to fly it)

 

Had fun a few years ago when the flying club was invited to have a visit to the BBMF hanger when we were allowed to sit in the aircraft - sat in the Spitfire going daka-daka-daka-daka across the hanger.

Memories !!!

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8 hours ago, Chris Williams said:

Explanation please, do they drown?  Suicide?  Sounds odd.

They fall in and cant get back out due to the piled sides.

11 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Yes - been down the Foss-ditch and the Witham  many times in the tin-slug.

 

The Witham is the most boring waterway in the world - the only interest is in playing 'spot the top of the telegraph poles that poke above the banks'.

 

Going thru the Glory-Hole

 

 

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A tad unfair I think.

 

The Witham is lovely. You just  have to moor up and find the interest beyond the flood banks. We love the Witham.

 

The Fossditch on the other hand is as someone has already said just a route to other waterways. Thankfully not a very long one.

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12 hours ago, MartynG said:

The more the better.

The numbers of Sealines at Farndon has certainly increased dramatically over the 11 years we have had a boat.

The average size of boats at Farndon Marina has certainly  increased with quite few near 50 footers (which is very big for a cruiser)  - not just Sealines. Some  would be not much  good at Burton waters due to the lack of clearance at Saxilby. 

 

I suppose you are one of the few that leave BW  marina. And just now not even  you as NCal is ashore. The Fosscut may silt up due to lack of use - or become  knitted up with fishing line.

 

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Most of the big Sealines from BW have now gone to Farndon. Which is a good thing. They were far too big for the ditch! 

 

Now just to send the Fairlines and Princess's up that way as well.

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9 hours ago, Chris Williams said:

Explanation please, do they drown?  Suicide?  Sounds odd.

AS NC said - they fall in & drown, or 'lemming like' they follow 'old routes' locked in their DNA and don't realise there is water in the way.

 

There are escape  'ski-slopes' of rubble every mile (or so) running down into the canal which do cause some difficulty if you happen to be passing another boat and don't notice it.

 

There also appears to be several other animal varieties that are affected, but to a lesser extent. Badgers and hares are typical, but once an animal has been in the water for a week or two there is not a lot of difference between them - they are all wet and bloated.

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11 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

I see the Lancaster, Hurricane, Spitfire and Dakota most days during the Summer, they pass low over the house (low enough to wave at the pilot)

 

Yes - I have a picture of it taken from the Dakota when they were flying over Ladybower Dam (replicating the Dam-Busters practice flights)

 

A friend was (before retiring) one of the Lancaster Pilots. he was CO at Cranwell but decided to take demotion to be allowed to fly it.

(They only allow Squadron leaders & below to fly it)

 

Had fun a few years ago when the flying club was invited to have a visit to the BBMF hanger when we were allowed to sit in the aircraft - sat in the Spitfire going daka-daka-daka-daka across the hanger.

Memories !!!

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Nice pic. I like the three bouncing bombs about to hit the dam. 

 

Here is one after the drop... Missed! 

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9 hours ago, Chris Williams said:

Explanation please, do they drown?  Suicide?  Sounds odd.

I think it suicide. I saw two dead deer hanging by their necks from the same branch of a tree (no kidding!) in the upper entrance to Holt Lock on the Severn  just 2 days ago. Could have been a lynching though I guess. :(

 

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31 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Bludy Reflections !!!!!!!!!!!

 

That's the light over my desk.

When I worked in London, , my MD was David Shannon, an Australian and one of the Dambuster Pilots. He had a painting of a Lancaster in his office which I really coveted. It was signed by many of the people involved in the raid, including Barnes-Wallis. He was a  great boss but did not suffer fools gladly and you had to be on your toes with him. However, if you did your job properly he would back you to the hilt. 

 

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Our land is on part of an Old Lancaster airfield and is almost on the approach to Coningsby (BBMF home) and as the BBMF are 'out' several times a week in the Summer they always make a slight diversion and come over us (and the old airfield) and give us a low fly-past.

The noise really does bring a lump to the throat and always seems to produce a bit of grit in the eyes.

 

A couple of fields away from us is the site of the crash of a Hurricane and a Lancaster on 'night affiliation' exercises (flying closely together for escort duties). The two planes collided and all 8 were killed. 

11th March 1945 - so close to the 'end', and lost in a training accident.

In the corner of the field there is a small memorial with 8 crosses, their names and a memorial plaque. It is well maintained despite being 1.5 miles from the nearest road access.

 

We will remember them.

 

The Men Who Died that Night

The pilot of the Hurricane was Sidney Frederick Parlato, aged 34 years, and served with the Royal New Zealand Air Force, he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and was buried at the cemetery in Cambridge.

Pilot of the Lancaster was Norman Henry Orchard, service number 419136, he served with the Royal Australian Air Force and is buried at Cambridge City Cemetery.

Reginald Frederick Neale, 1386352, was the Flight Sergeant and served with the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, he too is buried at Cambridge.

David Arthur Charles, 1653100, was also with the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, he was laid to rest in Old Road Cemetery Llanelli.

Harold Rollins, 1588200, aged 31 was buried at Leigh cemetery.

William Frederick Henry Elcome, 1891920, aged only 21, laid to rest in the cemetery at Cambridge.

Bernard John Patch, 1812236, aged only 21, laid to rest in the cemetery at Cambridge.

Harold Shaw, 1811658, 20 years of age, now rest at Heckmondwike cemetery.

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5 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

AS NC said - they fall in & drown, or 'lemming like' they follow 'old routes' locked in their DNA and don't realise there is water in the way.

 

There are escape  'ski-slopes' of rubble every mile (or so) running down into the canal which do cause some difficulty if you happen to be passing another boat and don't notice it.

 

There also appears to be several other animal varieties that are affected, but to a lesser extent. Badgers and hares are typical, but once an animal has been in the water for a week or two there is not a lot of difference between them - they are all wet and bloated.

Thanks for explanation.  Recent phenomenon?  In seven years of boating, the only animal I saw was a sheep.  Still alive and struggling. Bloody heavy to help it back out.

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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Nope - every Summer the same, always half-a-dozen floating along the Foss-Ditch.

 

The Witham, the Trent, the Soar and the T&M are all similarly afflicted but not the same extent.

All year round!

 

We moored on the Indian restaurant moorings in Saxilby one evening after a large group of us had enjoyed a nice meal in there. We were on the end mooring. 

 

We woke in the night to a God awful smell. But both ignored it and went to sleep again. The next morning we found a dead and very bloated deer draped around the back of the boat. It was disgusting. 

 

We got up and moved on quickly!

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6 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Bludy Reflections !!!!!!!!!!!

 

That's the light over my desk.

Just to be a little pedantic ... It is Derwent Reservoir, the middle of the three 'Ladybower' reservoirs. Coincidentally, my 4th great uncle owned Lockerbrook Farm in the 19th century, the nearest habitation to the Derwent dam, and I have a distant relation Sergeant Wilfred Ibbotson, rear gunner of A-Apple, who was killed returning from the dambusters raid Operation Chatise

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On 29/03/2019 at 16:51, Chris Williams said:

4 mph may be fine for canals, but you definitely need more 'oomph' on rivers, unless you like going backwards.  It may be a good idea to find somewhere with a higher speed limit, and find out just how fast your craft can go.  You may be disappointed, but that is better than getting into real trouble in a fast Current.  I speak from experience.

Not that I have ever found a nice wide and deep bit of water to test my boat on. but if I had.......

I might have found that with enough power on that it is just starting to produce black smoke from the exhaust the boat will just manage 9 Mph and shows no sign of overheating after 20 minutes at that speed, Steering feels like it's on rails (I have never felt such a positive tiller on a narrowboat), You might want Geoff Capes steering though as the forces on the tiller increase massively with speed.

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2 minutes ago, Jess-- said:

Not that I have ever found a nice wide and deep bit of water to test my boat on. but if I had.......

I might have found that with enough power on that it is just starting to produce black smoke from the exhaust the boat will just manage 9 Mph and shows no sign of overheating after 20 minutes at that speed, Steering feels like it's on rails (I have never felt such a positive tiller on a narrowboat), You might want Geoff Capes steering though as the forces on the tiller increase massively with speed.

With Keadby closed and the only way from the Trent onto the Yorkshire waterways now via Trent Falls and the Humber / Ouse.

The, up to, 5 knots (5.5mph) tides may come as a surprise to narrowboaters.

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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

With Keadby closed and the only way from the Trent onto the Yorkshire waterways now via Trent Falls and the Humber / Ouse.

I had not heard about that and it is not reported on the C&RT website.?

However Selby is closed ?

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9 minutes ago, MartynG said:

I had not heard about that and it is not reported on the C&RT website.?

However Selby is closed ?

Sorry - poor terminology.

The Stainforth & Keadby canal is closed due to the bridge failure at Thorne.

So, yes you can still use the Keadby lock as 'safe-haven', but cannot get very far.

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22 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

The Stainforth & Keadby canal is closed due to the bridge failure at Thorne.

Structural failure.

It's one of the automated lift bridges of which there are several  in that neck of the woods.

C&RT should be checking them all , I would hope.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notice/14816/wykewell-lift-bridge-failure

 

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