mrsmelly Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, haza said: thank you all so much for your info on this .it as been very much apriciated .but i have flapped about with it so much ...i have got the guy from lockgate coming tomorrow .i just hope it will be all worth while in the end ..or i may have to put the wood/coal burner back .in .but at least i got 30 bags of coal and plenty of logs to go with it lol once again thank you all And good to see you still have a sense of humour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 oh special thanks to mrsmelly on this one .dont now what i would have done with out it ...now is that humour ,or sarcasm ...i will let you make your mind up on that one ...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Just a thought, but what setting do you have it on? Due to the short flues on boats this type of stove will not burn with a blue flame on the highest settings. Post #47 in this thread shows the flame colour I achieved after a lot of fiddling. Edited March 19, 2019 by cuthound Flues not flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, cuthound said: Due to the short flies on boats this type of stove will not burn with a blue flame on the highest settings. Is that due to them only having little trousers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 yes cuthound i was told this i will let you know the out come ..when the very nice man comes tomorrow ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WotEver said: Is that due to them only having little trousers? Bluddy spillchucker, always interfering with wot I rote grrr. ? Edited March 19, 2019 by cuthound Rote not vote, bluddy spillchucker still interfering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 as i was sitting here ,thinking .and hoping when all this nonsence with this reflek fire is all sorted , just think now more ash ,dust ,and all the other stuff that comes with a coal burner ..dont get me wrong theres is nothing with a coal fire on a cold winters night i love it ...then another thought came over me ..out of all the thousands of posts ,from our very nice humorist.friends how many have those or there posts have actually helped any one, or are they here to just put a smile on my and other peoples faces ...it lights the day up i surpose .more then can be said abt this bloody fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just a thought, does the reflecks have a catalyser in the burner pot? I seem to recall that there was another popular pot burner used on boats, of Danish(?) make that was very poor in operation at low flow rates, but using a catalyser of rolled mesh in the centre of the pot aided vaporisation of the fuel and assisted flue draught. The Bubble stoves have such a component, and other stoves which used the concentric ring burners had the burner shells to provide the same conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 yes brum this as a catalser as you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 hi just a big thank you again .for all the input on this ..all is up and running .the fellow from lockgate came and put all what i had done wrong right, he also showed me where i was going wrong . he serviced and tinkered with it .and was here a couple of hours .worth every penny .and such a nice guy also and would recommend .anytime .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 just to say i brought this of some one off this site and i have to say a big thank you to them also .thanks for a great deal .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Glad you got it sorted. Once they are working properly oil drip stoves beat solid fuel stoves hands down . Just as hot, no ash and controllable. Running costs or very slightly higher about the same as branded coal such as Excel or Taybrite. What's not to like?. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, cuthound said: Glad you got it sorted. Once they are working properly oil drip stoves beat solid fuel stoves hands down . Just as hot, no ash and controllable. Running costs or very slightly higher about the same as branded coal such as Excel or Taybrite. What's not to like?. ? Why then as they have been around for a hell of a long time do solid fuel stoves still outsell them by a huge margin? Go on any brokerage site or on the duck and look at narrowboat heating installed and ask yersen why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, mrsmelly said: Why then as they have been around for a hell of a long time do solid fuel stoves still outsell them by a huge margin? Go on any brokerage site or on the duck and look at narrowboat heating installed and ask yersen why ? Cost - they are 2-3 times more expensive to buy new compared to a decent solid fuel stove like a Squirrel. Once set up properly they are very safe and reliable, don't forget their target is fishing boats. How long do you think a solid fuel stove work without setting fire to the boat in a force 10 onthe North Sea? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, cuthound said: What's not to like?. ? Is it cost? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, cuthound said: Cost - they are 2-3 times more expensive to buy new compared to a decent solid fuel stove like a Squirrel. Once set up properly they are very safe and reliable, don't forget their target is fishing boats. How long do you think a solid fuel stove work without setting fire to the boat in a force 10 onthe North Sea? ? Naaaah its not price. There are plenty of 100k boats out there with solid fuel stoves, the extra is peanuts on a new build. ? Dont suppose you have a diesel stove by any chance? Composting bog anyone? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Naaaah its not price. There are plenty of 100k boats out there with solid fuel stoves, the extra is peanuts on a new build. ? Dont suppose you have a diesel stove by any chance? Composting bog anyone? ? Yes I do have a diesel stove, (it came with the boat and i was sceptical of it at first, especially until I got it working properly). Before that I had 22 years of shared ownership boats with solid fuel stoves on. Both work well and heat the boat up, but only one doesnt coat the inside of the boat with ash dust, only needs cleaning once a month and is controllable ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haza Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 yes they have been around ages , and yes i love coal and wood burners ,but after 20 years of making the fire up, cleaning ash and wiping dust away ,,,but the game changer for me was .some weeks back when we had that nice 3/4 days of nice weather .i was cleaning the fire .and as the sun was coming though the windows high lighting all the dust and ash particles in the air ...if it was not from the fire ,,it may have been from no house ,,boat work for 20 years . the fire as been on now nearly 8 hours on number 1 setting and its feels great ..not that i needed it on with this nice weather ..but new toys and all that .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, cuthound said: Running costs or very slightly higher about the same as branded coal such as Excel or Taybrite. Until we can't buy red diesel anymore and then you'll be paying £1.50 per litre for diesel ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Until we can't buy red diesel anymore and then you'll be paying £1.50 per litre for diesel ... Not necessarily. There are several options: 1. Buy red diesel from a rural garage . Legal if put into 25 litre containers. 2. Change the metering stem for one calibrated for kerosene (heating oil). I can't see thrm banning kerosene for domestic oil fired boilers anytime soon and it is cheaper than canalside red diesel. 3. Get old cooking oil from my local chippy and brew my own biodiesel. Edited March 21, 2019 by cuthound Spillung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 hours ago, mrsmelly said: Naaaah its not price. There are plenty of 100k boats out there with solid fuel stoves, the extra is peanuts on a new build. ? Dont suppose you have a diesel stove by any chance? Composting bog anyone? ? Surely the composting bog analogy applies more to solid fuel stoves, what with storing bags full of dirty stuff outside the boat for months on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, cuthound said: Surely the composting bog analogy applies more to solid fuel stoves, what with storing bags full of dirty stuff outside the boat for months on end. Only if it is a log burner. 7 minutes ago, cuthound said: Not necessarily. There are several options: 1. Buy red diesel from a rural garage . Legal if put into 25 litre containers. 2. Change the metering stem for one calibrated for kerosene (heating oil). I can't see thrm banning kerosene for domestic oil fired boilers anytime soon and it is cheaper than canalside red diesel. 3. Get old cooking oil from my local chippy and brew my own biodiesel. 4.install a logburner....... Dear Liza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, cuthound said: Not necessarily. There are several options: 1. Buy red diesel from a rural garage . Legal if put into 25 litre containers. 2. Change the metering stem for one calibrated for kerosene (heating oil). I can't see thrm banning kerosene for domestic oil fired boilers anytime soon and it is cheaper than canalside red diesel. 3. Get old cooking oil from my local chippy and brew my own biodiesel. Youve lost the plot Hound ?.............or simply have the local coal boat put sacks of lovely smokeless fuel on boat for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, mrsmelly said: Youve lost the plot Hound ?.............or simply have the local coal boat put sacks of lovely smokeless fuel on boat for you. Do they sell dustless too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldlimey Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hi Do ypu have the contact details for the guy who came and sorted it? How much was it? Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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