dor Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I've just been reading an article by Jack Schofield reegarding TV licencing: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2019/feb/21/how-can-i-avoid-paying-a-tv-licence-fee It highlights a number of recent changes in the requirements for holding a TV licence. Now like most non-liveaboard boaters, I have a TV licence for home, which I assumed covered use on a boat (or caravan). I wonder what the situation is now, especially as the requirement now covers smartphones and tablets that are used for streaming live TV or BBC iPlayer, that may be used by someone who doesn't live at the boat owner's home. And presumably liveaboards need to have a licence, even if they only use a smartphone or tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMc Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 On a similar note, I wonder how Sky/BTSport would feel if customers in pubs started watching the footy on personal 'large screen' tablets so the pub didn't need to pay their extortionate fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer McM Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 It would be much easier for all if the BBC went down the advertising, product placement, path. The antiquated funding system has hardly kept up with progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 TV, smartphone and tablet Detector Boats are operating in your area! I am currently going through a no TV, hence no licence phase. Something that happens every once in a while when the general rubbishness of what is on gets to me. Jen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jennifer McM said: It would be much easier for all if the BBC went down the advertising, product placement, path. Nooooo! Besides the good quality of many of its programmes, what sets the B.B.C. apart from the lesser stations is the refreshing lack of interminable bloomin' adverts. Long may it continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Has anything actually changed, it still has the clause the a boat is covered by the licence at your main home Quote You don’t need a separate TV Licence for Any device powered solely by its own internal batteries (i.e. it is not connected to an aerial or plugged into the mains). Your main home’s TV Licence will cover this. Boats, touring caravans or vehicles as they’re already covered by your main home’s TV Licence. Static caravans, mobile homes or moveable chalets. Your main home’s TV Licence will cover you unless anyone is watching or recording live TV on any channel or watching or downloading BBC programmes on iPlayer at the same time at your main licensed address. In this case you will need to complete this form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jennifer McM said: It would be much easier for all if the BBC went down the advertising, product placement, path. The antiquated funding system has hardly kept up with progress. Given that the government tell the BBC what they can charge for a licence, and the total number of licences in the UK is known, why don't we just stop all this nonsense and have the government give the BBC a block grant annually. The savings in issuing licences, enforcement and non compliance could be shared between the BBC and the government and both would be better off. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMc Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, furnessvale said: Given that the government tell the BBC what they can charge for a licence, and the total number of licences in the UK is known, why don't we just stop all this nonsense and have the government give the BBC a block grant annually. The savings in issuing licences, enforcement and non compliance could be shared between the BBC and the government and both would be better off. George Yeah, but those nice people at Capita would be out of pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jennifer McM said: It would be much easier for all if the BBC went down the advertising, product placement, path. The antiquated funding system has hardly kept up with progress. Completely agree. It should pay its way as every other station has to. All this cows droppings re the unique way we are funded blah blah just doesnt cut it with me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, Athy said: Nooooo! Besides the good quality of many of its programmes, what sets the B.B.C. apart from the lesser stations is the refreshing lack of interminable bloomin' adverts. Long may it continue! It's always a shock, when watching BBC World in another country, when the adverts come on. Whatever the new finding model might be, it definitely should not include addy breaks. The licence fee is worth it for Radio 3 and Radio 4 alone (OK, and Radio 2 at weekends). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said: It's always a shock, when watching BBC World in another country, when the adverts come on. Whatever the new finding model might be, it definitely should not include addy breaks. The licence fee is worth it for Radio 3 and Radio 4 alone (OK, and Radio 2 at weekends). You no longer need a tv licence to listen to the radio so that doesnt hold water. Its a con and jobs for the boys money. Anyway without the adverts when watching a film when do you get to have a pee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer McM Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Athy said: Nooooo! Besides the good quality of many of its programmes, what sets the B.B.C. apart from the lesser stations is the refreshing lack of interminable bloomin' adverts. Long may it continue! Use the advertising time to make a cuppa, or in our case, ask questions like, "What did she mean?", "Who's Jim?", "Now what film is she in?", "My money's on the gardener doing him in!".... Edited February 28, 2019 by Jennifer McM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Completely agree. It should pay its way as every other station has to. All this cows droppings re the unique way we are funded blah blah just doesnt cut it with me. The commercial ones only pay their way because you pay every time you go shopping regardless of whether you watch TV or not. even the grand kids pay toward it when they spend their pocket money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMc Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: You no longer need a tv licence to listen to the radio so that doesnt hold water. Its a con and jobs for the boys money. Anyway without the adverts when watching a film when do you get to have a pee? Pause button ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, KevMc said: Pause button ? I think he means if the film is being shown live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Athy said: I think he means if the film is being shown live. You do know you can pause live TV if you have a DVR don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said: You do know you can pause live TV if you have a DVR don't you? No. Isn't the DVR a preserved steam railway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 PVR (Personal Video Recorder). Most of them can pause live telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) I was fine with No Licence declaration up till recently, but have had emails and now a letter. I think I watched something via a link, I just assumed a "warning" would appear. Oh yes, and I thought I was watching youtube but it turned out to be something on BBC, so that is at least two contraventions. I did watch a few News type clips, but I thought they were different, neither live nor iPlayer. Presumably they monitor my broadband, I don't have a TV. So I should buy a licence, then cancel in a few months? I tried to explain, but there is no "excuse" box on their website. Edited February 28, 2019 by LadyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Athy said: Nooooo! Besides the good quality of many of its programmes, what sets the B.B.C. apart from the lesser stations is the refreshing lack of interminable bloomin' adverts. Long may it continue! If, you watch a game 'of two halves' on a commercial channel it is uninterupted, the ads are at half time or before and after. Why can't all TV companies do this all the time. If we know there's going to be an hours viewings worth of adverts coming on we can get on with summat else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nightwatch said: If, you watch a game 'of two halves' on a commercial channel it is uninterupted, the ads are at half time or before and after. Why can't all TV companies do this all the time. If we know there's going to be an hours viewings worth of adverts coming on we can get on with summat else. Thats why. The advertiser pay to have you watch them, not go for a pee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, mrsmelly said: You no longer need a tv licence to listen to the radio so that doesnt hold water. Even though you don't need a licence, the service still has to be paid for -- out of the TV licence fee. So my point remains -- I'm happy to pay it, and as a bonus, no addies if I do watch the Beeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, LadyG said: I was fine with No Licence declaration up till recently, but have had emails and now a letter. I think I watched something via a link, I just assumed a "warning" would appear. Oh yes, and I thought I was watching youtube but it turned out to be something on BBC, so that is at least two contraventions. I did watch a few News type clips, but I thought they were different, neither live nor iPlayer. Presumably they monitor my broadband, I don't have a TV. So I should buy a licence, then cancel in a few months? I tried to explain, but there is no "excuse" box on their website. TV licensing do have a very good line of bullying and intimidation even if you have declared you dont have a TV, after a while they will come back an harass you again. Ask them if they know what Noah said to the animals as they left the ark, tell them to do likewise. Edited February 28, 2019 by Loddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I have a TV license at home. My boat TV works off a battery so I don't need an extra license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, MartynG said: I have a TV license at home. My boat TV works off a battery so I don't need an extra license. Correct - and you can use mains electricity if you want: TV licensing FAQ linky 5 hours ago, dor said: Now like most non-liveaboard boaters, I have a TV licence for home, which I assumed covered use on a boat (or caravan). It still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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