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  1. Greetings all, hope you enjoyed the rain this morning! So I've pulled out the bed (that was seemingly made from American white oak and old pallets), and dismantled the room. We now have access under the shower tray, and the bilge below. The marine ply is a little warped here. Might be from water damage? Also found some semi-precious stones that belonged to previous owners... The pump is connected to the water system as well as the waste.... I suppose to allow the system to be drained? The hose that you see leaving the pump connects to a copper pipe of around 10mm diameter to pass through the hull. Is this normal? Upon inspection, I've discovered that there's rather a lot of brown, flaky stuff down there.... The bilge is dry to the touch. The shower tray holds water, and unless you operate the pump, water will remain in the waste for days... so my guess is that the damage was caused either by poor tiling, or that it's from a previous installation. There is some thick black plastic on the bilge floor (2nd image) , that doesn't seem to extend beneath the waste. The waste is in contact with the steel.... this seems odd to me. I'd want to put the plastic beneath the shower...so I wonder if it's been plled up in order to deal with a leak? Or, perhaps condensation is forming when the waste has hot water in it? I had a scrape... and there's a fair bit of rust... an interesting experience - knowing that the canal is 10mm away, as you scrape a good 3mm away! Didn't show up in the survey. Probably have to pull the entire shower installation out to get to the bilge here - which I want to do anyway. The inspection-hatch at the stern is dry and rust free.. Any suggestions on what course to take? I considered cutting away the warped ply, and treating as much of the exposed bilge as possible, before pulling apart the adjacent bathroom.
  2. Hi, So I'm considering buying a cheap grp cruiser to liveaboard. I have a lot of questions and a lot of research to do but I will start with just one: I have a preference for a narrowbeam cruiser so that I'm free to travel across the country in my boat, I especially like the idea of going up to Birmingham for curry. I don't drive so it would be a big asset to me to have a boat that is also one of my main modes of transport. Anyway, as I peruse ebay all misty-eyed, it's becoming apparent to me that the boats that look feasable as a liveaboard (they have showers) are also wide beams. Should I give up on this idea of getting a narrow beam cruiser if I want to practically live on it? Or should I get used to washing in a sink? Or are there in fact plenty of examples of narrow beam cruisers with showers? ___________ Context: I am a poor boy with fairly humble needs for living, so I'm looking for a boat I can get for <£10, 000 under 30'. I intend to (genuinely) continuously cruise around the London loop.
  3. I am trying to find a water flow switch to turn on a whale gulper pump when the water flows through the pipe to the shower, however I can only find flow switches rated for 1 amp or lower. As the gulper instructions state it should be fused at 5 amps I need the switch to handle the (potentially) higher load used by the pump. Ideally I'd keep this setup as simple as possible, so a if a higher rated flow switch is available please let me know as I haven't been able to find anything! Otherwise I was thinking I could use a relay to control the power to the pump, which would mean I could use the switch within its rated max current, however being unfamiliar with relays I have a couple of questions: If I have a 12v +ve supply, run it through the switch, through the relay and back to the -ve then am I just creating the equivalent of a short circuit when the water starts flowing? Or is my relay the equivalent of an appliance in this case? It must "draw" some power. Would something like this from Maplin in conjunction with one of the switches below do the job? Ohm's law tells me that this would draw 0.15 amps (a = 12v / 80 ohms), assuming I am not misunderstanding/missing something. Switch 1 Switch 2 Whatever happens there will be another switch parallel with this setup to allow a manual override if we need to run the pump with the shower off. Thanks in advance.
  4. Hi guys, I've found a boat which i'm keen to go view this weekend, it's in Cardiff I'm in London, and I'm keen to turn it into a live aboard for me and the Mrs. The only thing is, it has no shower. Can someone lead me in the direction of someone that fits showers/ or a website where I can browse NB shower prices? Here's a link to the boat: http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=385613 The boat will also require lifting out the water and transporting to a Canal, possibly near London. I've been quoted £1000 by the Ship brokers. Is this an overpriced estimate? Thanks for your time again! Wes
  5. On our boat the shower style is wet room so the hose pulls out of the sink and you shower and flick the pump so water goes out of the side. I've managed to lift up the floor area you stand on as water then runs under it to look underneath and this is what we have. Is it normal to have a bit of water under here. We last used the boat almost a week ago. Is there anything I should do?
  6. Hi all I've looked at several boats over the last few weeks now, and I've narrowed it down to two I like. I'd like your knowledgeable advice please! On both boats, if I were to make an offer, it would be a fair bit lower than the asking price. Both boats have a GRP (fibreglass) top, which due to loads of searching on the forum, I know several of you say avoid, and some others love! Personally from the searches I've done, no one has said anything that would make me run in the opposite direction! This one, perfect layout for me (has an area to do my art without having to keep packing everything away after). I love that it's very original (I don't do modern, I was born in the wrong era), and it appears to have been looked after. I also, after chatting with a long time boater, like the trad stern, for reasons of it giving more space inside, and keeping you warm while on the move in winter. The negatives as far as I'm concerned are it has no water heater and no shower, both of which I would have to have fitted, so more cost. Also I'm a little scared that with that trad stern with nothing around the edges so to speak, I might step back and knock my ickle dog into the canal lol! http://www.whiltonmarina.co.uk/used-narrowboats/details/2965.aspx This one on the other hand, has had loads of work done, subject to a satisfactory survey of my own, it is ready to go with no work to be done, or to cost me more money! On the minus, there isn't anywhere to leave my art out so I would constantly be packing it all away every time, which as I'm a lazy bugger I know I just won't bother to do it. Also as it's a cruiser stern alongside the lack of interior space, it means being cold when travelling in the winter, but at least I can sit outside in the summer lol! http://www.venetianmarina.co.uk/used-narrowboats/details/2950.aspx Any advice greatly received. I have viewed both in person and pulled things around! Before making an offer on either I would view again when it's raining to see if there are any leaks in the GRP! Thank you kindly
  7. Hiya, We are about to attempt a bathroom refit on our narrowboat. We are stripping old the old (very) compact bath and possibly replacing with a compact corner bath to save a bit of space. The plan is to go from a bathroom off a corridor, to one the whole width of the boat but with a entry/exit door in each side (if you know what I mean). We're pretty new to narrowboats, but we plan to do it ourselves - it doesn't look that hard!! (we'll see). Main problem: since we have had the boat, sometimes in the morning, or if we haven't been onboard for a day or so (we are in the process of moving from our house onto the boat) there is a small amount of often smelly water accumulated in the bottom of the bath. I don't really see how we could be taking in water through the outlet. Sometimes the pump takes a while to get the water out. Is anyone familiar with this problem? Is it an issue with the plumbing, or with the pump, or what?? Second problem: this is more ignorance. But as the water in the boat is not under pressure (unless the pump is on), then can I take the pipes off the bath/sink taps without water flowing out of the them? If so, then I guess I need to seal them off at the ends before I use the water pump in any other area of the boat? That's probably a ridiculous question, but whether it is or not, I would appreciate some advice! Thanks in advance!!!
  8. I have some questions about showers, particularly the waste: Do I need to include a "normal" trap as part of the shower waste? I've been doing some searching and have seen people advocating both using one and not bothering. My instinct is that it's not required as we won't be connected to a drain and therefore there will be no smells to rise up through the plug hole. Also as the water is being flushed through fairly regularly (this will be a liveaboard) there isn't much time for what little water doesn't get pumped out and is left in the pipe to stagnate and become too smelly. I ask because we are not planning to have a shower tray, but instead have a wet room setup with a shallow slope on the floor in the shower area to aid drainage. Therefore this area of floor will be lower than the rest of the bathroom and I'm trying to figure out how much space to allow under the floor for the waste pipe and fittings. I understand that with a Whale Gulper pump the pump can sit above the lowest point and will still happily raise the water up to a skin fitting so currently the plan is that this would be located in a cupboard behind the bulkhead. Would I be able to install a "normal" plug hole (sink waste) like this one, and then a right angled bend, and then the waste pipe leading from that off to the pump? Thanks in advance and please excuse my ignorance, plumbing is something I have very little experience with (so far).
  9. Hi All! My wife and I have a 63 foot narrowboat. We recently had a Paloma hot water boiler replaced (the old one didn;t work when we bought the boat a few months ago). The Paloma is situated in the galley, around one third of the way along the boat from the bow. The water pump is on the inside of the boat, on the other side of the wall from the cratch. Our bathroom is another third of the way down the boat. When we turn on the hot water tap in the bathroom the Paloma (set on highest temp) ignites (only when water turned on full) and we get hot water - but too hot to shower under. If we turn the cold water on - even just a little - then the Paloma stops burning (presumably because of a lack of water pressure), so then we have cold water. If I turn down any of the settings on the Paloma (down to 'two flames', or down to anything less than '5') then it does not ignite even when hot water tap is turned on full and cold water off. So, we have either hot or cold water, but no happy medium. We are new to narrowboats! Can we turn the water pressure up on the pump? Will this cause leaks if we do? Can we make the Paloma more sensitive to water pressure? Is there anything we can do to solve this?? Any advice would be much appreciated!!! Cheers!!
  10. Hi all, My partner and I have bought a tiny 30ft cruiser stern narrowboat which we are now living on (we quite like small spaces). We currently have a toilet room near the stern next to the engine bay which I have an idea to turn into a wet room and install a shower. The floor of the wet room is lower than the cut water level which means a waste tank will be needed for grey water from the shower. I'm thinking of installing a grey water waste tank like those used with caravans in the engine bay (there's plenty of room) which could then be emptied using a standard 12v submersible pump. Any advice or suggestions on this idea? Might there be a BSC issue I should be aware of in terms of draining into a tank in my engine bay? Thanks for any help, Will
  11. as some of you might remember we bought a boat that needed a bit of work. Well when we looked under the sink it had two of those mould preventer type containers- full up. The sink smelt like mould. So I pulled out the shelves and found a puddle of water under the shower gulper. (I quickly put the shelves back down and buried my head in the canal sand) (Just kidding) ​ I can't see where the water is leaking from. But I know some things. It doesn't appear to be the pipe going to the outside. It does not appear to be the pipes going to the taps. And it does not look like the pipe attaching to the gulper. But somehow there is water under it. When showering under the sink fills up with clean water- not soapy. So I thought maybe the water was leaking through the tiles. I filled only the basin of the shower and it still leaked, thus ruling out tiles. So I tried to take the basin out. WOW. So I ended up removing the bottom layer of tiles- not easy but the shower still wouldn't budge. I unscrewed the plug- then it occurred to me- could the shower be leaking through the plug- it is only a flimsy black bit of plastic on the other side of the hole? So that's where I'm at at the moment. An unusable shower and the thought that it is worth just siliconing the plug to stop leaks around the edges and seeing if that stops the leak. Any other suggestions, or this happened to anyone else? thanks Anna PS On the plus side we've used the marina showers now and they are quite nice.
  12. The toilet it in my 22ft boat is small, but adequate for the toilet that's in there, but I'd like to add a makeshift shower. I don't have running warm water, so I'm thinking of using a pump pressure washer spray that you'd see in Screwfix. I say pressure washer, but it's nothing major. I could fill it with warm water and use it as a shower. BUT... it's how to try and incorporate it into my tiny bathroom without flooding the place, or getting it damp. My toilet is like this: I've no idea what is under the flooring or the step that the toilet sits on. And I really don't want to rip the step out as it's quite well in there and the flooring goes under it. The door to the toilet is a folding door. The toilet is, as you'd imagine, standalone and completely removable. The highest part of the ceiling is just an inch above my head, and that's the roof of the boat. Can't change that! I was thinking of, basically, covering the place in overlapping lino, plenty of silicon sealant on any joints, and have a basin on the floor to catch any water. That way I could sit on the pan while having a shower. Any of your good selves have a better, easier, solution? I'm looking for a quick fix that doesn't involve ripping everything apart.
  13. Back on the wetroom subject. We hired a narrowboat last year, we were so impressed with her and we had a great week. We enjoyed it, and many previous canal holidays, so much that we have now bought a narrowboat that we are currently re-fitting in reverse layout. The boat that we hired last had a vinyl floor (with vinyl that curved up all walls ans was neatly welded at the mitred corners) wetroom which was fantastic, very clean, modern and functional. I would like to put one in our boat 'Garoline'. I am hoping that someone on here might have some photos or details of something that they have seen or have themselves and possibly details of a decent vinyl wetroom installer ? Many thanks Gary, Caroline & Garoline.
  14. Hi all, Hopefully someone knows the answer to this. I have an Eberspacher that heats a calorifier. I run the Eber for about an hour and we get a decent amount of hot water for showers. My issue is the amount of time it takes for the hot water to reach the taps. I measured it this morning and it took 12 litres of water before it turned warm. This is the same every time the first person wants hot water. Can anyone suggest why this would happen? The shower is quite close to the calorifier, just a bedroom in between, so I'm finding it hard to make any sense of why it takes the amount of time. Please help!
  15. A few weeks back I asked if anyone had used vinyl flooring on shower/bathroom walls. I few said they had with good results. Many man hours later here is my new bathroom complete with vinyl walls (both top and bottom) with excellent results. (see pics) Advice if you do it ..... use plenty of 'vinyl' adhesive spray (not carpet adhesive) , do not skimp otherwise you get air pockets. The surface must be completely flat that you are sticking it to. (I had issues with a few screw heads) Yes I learnt the hard way ! 3rd picture is a before picture after 3 years of 'leaky' tiling.
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