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3 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:
If you don't want to follow the advice, fine, but you should only speak on behalf of yourself (or your friend). My schedule is explicit as to the existence of, and limit of cover for, a craft in my care. I would assume any boatyard has something similar for boats in their care. That is separate to the general public liability figure, which has an extra zero on the end.
"Assume"........ Have a lovely day.
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8 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
My insurance (2 different providers on two different boats) specifically state that 'my' isurance is not in force if the boat is being helmed by a paid professional.
I'll try and hunt out the wording ........................
That was exactly my point in the original post (way back when), when we first discussed this. Most boat movers insurance isn't worth the paper it's printed on.....
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58 minutes ago, PaulJ said:
Can you tell us which Boat Mover this is then jeddlad- at least then people will know which uninsured ones to avoid then.
If you ask any boat mover, they will say they are fully insured. Technically with a 3rd party liability policy they can say they are fully insured as they are....however they are not fully comprehensively insured.
It's always buyer beware regardless of what products / services you buy......As a customer choosing a boat mover, it's down to you and you only, to check your boat is comprehensively insured whilst they move it.
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1 hour ago, David Mack said:
The 1st and 2nd parties to a contract of insurance are the insurance company and the insured i.e. the boat mover in this case. So any damage to the customer's boat which the boat mover is moving would be 3rd party damage.
This is the last time I go into this. ........ The insurance documents my friend has as a boat mover are very clear, he is covered for any damage he causes when moving a boat to any 3rd party but the actual boat he is moving is not covered. I've arranged the policy on his behalf, I've seen the documents and I spoke to many insurance companies regarding this issue during the process of arranging his insurance renewal. If you don't want to believe me that's fine. Short of publishing the insurance document on here, I really give up........
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3 hours ago, Captain Pegg said:
We recently had a similar question with regard to boat movers where @jeddlad suggested that such a product wasn't available. In that case it most definitely is and I suspect the same applies for you.
I never said commercial insurance wasn't available for Boat Movers, what I said was that they all have 3rd party liability insurance and that the craft they are moving is usually covered under the craft owners policy. I tried to get the equivalent of fully comprehensive insurance for a friend on his boat moving company and we couldn't find an insurance company willing to offer anything more than 3rd party liability. We tried the "specialist insurance" end of the market and they wouldn't offer more than 3rd party liability either.
A commercial insurance policy for a static Air BnB is a very different proposal (insurance wise) than a policy for an active boat mover.
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Alas my biggest cruise will be to the boat broker.....Time to sell up amd move on. I don't feel sad about it......Yet.
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1 hour ago, PaulJ said:
Well you are 50% right.
Policies have both an agreed value and excess (cost of which is down to me). This is the maximum single claim value that the owner can make on THE BOAT THAT IS BEING MOVED .
Yes the general public does also get paid out if I destroy anything/maim/kill them too.
I also reccomend that boat owners notify their insurance company I am moving their boat.
As my policy has the word narrowboatmover in it I would think even the dumbest insurance clerk would pick up on whether I was insured or not. So not a clever move if Im uninsured (according to you)
I have bought many temp licences from different nav authorities using my insurance.
All the high end brokerages I move boats for have a copy of my insurance- they wont use or reccomend me without it. No insurance , no work.
Hope this helps you understand how insurance works and more importantly I hope anyone that may wrongly believe your version understands it to. Yes there are uninsured cowboys around but Im not one of them!
I helped a friend set up a boat moving business last year and I contacted multiple insurance companies on his behalf. No one would cover the actual boat he was moving for any damage (he caused) to that vessel. They offered 3rd party liability insurance to cover anything he damaged whilst using a customer's vessel but the customer's boat was NOT insured apart from through the customer's own insurance policy. I'm no insurance expert, this is my personal experience after trying to find fully comp kind of cover for my friend and his business.
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19 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:
Surly a boat mover will have insurance if doing it professionally
Lol so you would think. All boat movers only have 3rd party liability insurance. Anything they hit whilst moving your boat is covered but your boat isn't.
All the boat movers says they are fully insured, yes they are fully insured, with 3rd party liability insurance.
It is impossible for boat movers to get fully comp insurance as none of the insurance companies offer a policy such as this
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Sven from SOS Boatmovers is a good guy. Search for SOS Boatmovers on Facebook. I know he charges about £10 per hour. Other movers can charge £14 per hour and one I know of, even tries to charge people for a labourer at £10 per hour to help with the locks!
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45 minutes ago, Bewildered said:
Over ten mins of video with many shots of CRT workers doing vital jobs but not a single shot of a CRT work boat in its natural habitat, abandoned on a lock landing stage.
Or tied precariously with the thinnest bit of blue rope they can find.
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Usually I don't watch this kind of thing but (as no fan of Mr Parry) I thought it was well done and it held my attention till the end. It was informative, showed the canals and the variation of them and was well shot.
Many boaters don't realise that we can't pay for the upkeep of the canals through our licence fees alone and I thought Richard Parry made the point well. I had to speak to CaRT recently, the lady on the phone didn't know the information I required. Within 1 hour she called me back and as I was driving left a message on my ansaphone. She then called me again before she left the office to check I'd got the message and info required. Great service......I wish the likes of BT, the mobile phone and utility companies were as customer focused.
Yes CaRT don't get it right all the times but I often feel they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. For example the towpath grass cutting saga!
I was mightily pleased to see the CaRT work boat turn up near my mooring on Monday and start a winter long plan to cut the reeds back from a 8 mile street of canal near me.
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I gave up with my Mikuni MX40 years ago. Ripped it out and replaced it with a Refleks.
The MX40 was being very troublesome, they'd just stoped making the spares and I was totally fed up with it.
To be fair, I do wish I'd still got something similar as they are useful for heating hot water on those summer days when you don't move and the solar has charged the batteries and heating on days or nights when it's not quite cold enough to light the Refleks but is a tad chilly.
Of course, the above is IMHO.
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I'm from Sheffield as well, I've also had a narrowboat for 10+ years. I've never had the boat on the SSYN. Unfortunately for me, Sheffield (my beloved home city) is on the arse end of the system. Ie it's a dead end and a very long dead end with limited cruising opportunities. My boat has always been in the Midlands. I used to be moored near Rugeley and it was only an hour and 10 mins by car (not at peak times), Sawley Marina where I was moored many moons ago, was only an hour.....
Where I'm moored at the moment is approx an hour and twenty mins to an hour and forty mins away from home depending on traffic / time of day.
My advice would be, if you're not planning on living aboard, is to NOT have the boat moored in Sheffield.
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On 20/09/2021 at 08:14, Dave123 said:
Peel really are appalling. Someone needs to take that canal away from them! I suppose the only place to go is above the first lock of the Rochdale.
Peel have wanted CaRT to take over the Bridgewater Canal for years.........please note, just the canal and the water, not any of the land.......
CaRT have been, very sensibly, declining Peel's "kind" offer due to the fact that the Bridgewater needs tens of millions of pounds spending on it. Most, if not all, of the aqueducts leak and the Barton Swing Bridge needs upwards of 6 million quid spending on it alone....................
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3 hours ago, IanD said:
Is there another water point other than the one circled (where we filled up last visit), or is this the one you meant when talking about the trip boats? I'm surprised the couple needing water didn't just breast up.
I agree about mooring on the arms, don't even bother trying to moor on the "Castlefield visitor moorings (6-8 boats)" even if your map says they exist, they were almost all full when we were there a couple of years ago, I don't know if they even exist any more since the Peel rule changes, and if you take the boat down there hoping to moor and can't then turning at the end is a b*itch due to silting up...
There is another water point at the end of the (closest to Rice Street) Staffordshire arm. It's hidden away by the bridge. The one you have ringed is by the 2 large trip boats. The other water point is at the end of the Staffordshire arm under a bridge, almost opposite one of the hotel / air bnb boats
I agree re breasting up, that's what I would have done but they were being polite and just hovered............
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I spent the night in Castlefield Basin last Friday night. I was on the visitor moorings in the Staffordshire arms (not a typo or a pub for those that don't know, there are actually two arms side by side). I was surprised how few boats were there. I arrived around 11am and was expecting to take hobsons's choice but I had my pick. My only moan would be that the woman who runs the hotel / air bnb boats, moored on the water point for over 2.5 hours. I didn't need water but I felt sorry for couple who needed water and hovered for nearly an hour. The woman was cleaning the boats not filling them with water - selfish.
On the plus side, I thoroughly enjoyed my stay. Lots of people around, no trouble or bad behaviour, rubbish / recycling bins, very central, could walk everywhere. I would say it was quiet even for a Friday night but after a night out with my cousin, I sorta passed out when I got back to the boat!!😀😁😂
The Police Community Support Officers were over by the Manchester Bowl and I motioned across the arms if they'd like a cuppa. They both came over for a cup of tea and a most interesting chat. They do patrol the area by the canal often and are well known in community. They said that because they mainly patrol the same beats and the fact that they are not police officers meant that the local community tended to engage with them much more than conventional police.
There is also another water point by the two massive trip boats and also an elsan point but you need a Bridgewater key to access the elsan point (not the water). You can also moor in the loop if there is space but most of the moorings in the loop are now long term permit holders.
My only other observation is that the closer you get to Manchester, people become a lot less "wavy" or smiley as you go past.............Big city living............
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12 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said:
I suspect the clue is in the fact that the OP is passing a long line of boats. I've followed boats doing the same, crawling so slowly that I spend half the time out of gear and losing steering. And have often felt the urge to overtake them and carry on at a sensible speed, though have only done it once.*
As the only way to get past a crawler is to wind the throttle up, that might explain the speed, the wash, and the frustrated uncommunicative nature of the overtaker, who had probably lost his cool ten minutes before.
Of course, none of this may be relevant in this case, and the overtaker may just have been an idiot.
*On the Llangollen, when the hire boat in front was stopping dead at every bridge while a bloke on the front poked the nose in with the pole. He then hit each bridge as he had no steering and had already hit three moored boats. First wide bit I surfed past him on full revs, making no eye contact. Passed him again next morning at 6am, moored on a lock landing.
Lol, Arthur, I'm certainly no slouch and was going at a decent pace myself. The guy over taking me whilst we were passing a long line of boats was at almost full throttle......
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Social media is awash with boaters moaning about other boaters speeding past moored boats. It's been going on all summer. I've been keeping quiet on the subject until now....
Yesterday as I was going past a long line of moored boats (on line moorings for both a boat club and an adjacent marina) a private boater came speeding up behind me and overtook me creating a massive wash and his counter was "riding the wave", as he passed, I casually asked him if we didn't need to slow down for moored boats any more, he just accelerated more and now at full speed, continued his over taking manoeuvre.
I still had a great day but did shake my head at the amount of idiots out cruising at the moment.............
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On 05/09/2021 at 15:20, Naughty Cal said:
We had done all that we wanted to do with the boat. It was time for a change of scenery. We had become fed up of chugging up and down the same waters and had become increasingly disappointed in the rapidly declining state of our local waterways.
We had also become increasingly aware that NC had done a lot of hours for the type of boat and although well maintained if we were to continue using her in the same manner there would be some very large bills on the horizon.
We took the desicion that while she was still in good order now (February this year) was the right time for us to sell. We have every confidence that she will be a good boat for her new owners in her semi retirement on the Norfolk Broads.
We do of course miss her terribly. She was a massive part of our lives for 13 years. But equally we are very much enjoying our new venture with the motorhome and are very much enjoying exploring new places that the boat couldn't physically take us as well as visiting favourite places in a different mode of transport.
We were, perhaps understandably, very concerned whether we had made the right choice or not. I think any fears have now been disproven as we are very much enjoying our new passtime and with every passing journey and place we explore we are growing more and more fond of the van. I think she will be well travelled by the time we have parted company 😃
I always enjoyed your comments and views. Your take no rubbish, suffer no fools and take no prisoners comments are missed.......By me at least!
Glad to hear all is going well motor homing. I'm in the process of getting my narrow boat ready for sale. I've had the boat for 10 years and like you, feel the need to explore horizons not accessible by boat.
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30 minutes ago, MrsM said:
I shut the side hatch in locks but don't see why it should be done when cruising - were you given a reason?
I don't know why, but I never cruise with the side hatch open. I've always shut it and always will......Can't give you a reason why. Similarly I never cruise with the bow doors open.
Thinking about it, I'm normally single handed and just don't like the doors or side hatch open as I cruise along.
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Join the Refleks Diesel Stove group on facebook. Lots of info there and plenty of people who have Refleks and can offer advice.
Not all Refleks burn blue, for example the 62 model burns mainly yellow. Any Refleks that uses the same catalyst at the 62 will burn predominantly yellow.
Also not all Refleks stoves light the way described above. There are 2 types of controllor that can be used and the description above is just for 1 of those types.
I prefer the firelighters method, I just turn the fuel on, let the base of the burner pot get covered in fuel, turn the fuel off, throw in 1/2 a fire lighter, wait for the catalyst to glow red and then turn the fuel back on. Leave and enjoy.
The beauty of Refleks is leaving it running 24 hours a day. Mine supplies hot water to the radiators in the bathroom and bedroom plus heats the calorifier. I leave the stove running on minimum, 24 hours a day when I'm on board in winter. Uses approx 3.6 litres of red per 24 hours......Cheaper than coal (depending on what you pay for 0% red) and the heat stays at a constant temperature. Also the entire boat is toasty warm when you wake up in the morning.
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I'm not saying anything to drop myself in it......
See you on the cut....
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On 02/11/2020 at 01:02, Man 'o Kent said:
Hill Street Blues.
Fantastic suggestion, loved it as a teenager inbthe 80's. Unfortunately looks very dated now.........Still a good suggestion
Canal Boat Diaries
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I like Robbie's gentle manner but his mooring up in the Marina at the end of episode was certainly reminiscent of Tim West......