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thanks, i hadnt noticed that.. will look into the extra costs.. thanks yes they are dryliners, i have a machine shop local to me that can remove and fit the liners for me...

hi all... my engine is so tired its in need of a rebuild... i cant afford the prices quoted to rebuild my engine £1500... so ive seen this kit on ebay and going to have a go myself.. has anyone here used one of these kits? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153202836271?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

i really didnt realise those vetus boxes were can be so much trouble... ive read about a few cases of water going back on google... your idea sounds great but there is no access to the boat sides for the exhaust exit as there is a fuel tank one side and gas locker the other side... it would need to exit roughly where it does now but there is some height above the engine to have the inverted u bend from the manifold... but thanks again for the advice that makes so much more sense... ordered the new head gasket set so hopefully get it put back together next weekend...

i found this paragraph on another forum about water getting into the engine ... it makes total sense to me... fingers crossed thats the answer to my water problem,,, and i should think water getting in the pots would stop it firing.. most people who had flooded their engines, including my brother, had done so by filling the waterlook, cranking the engine for a long time while bleeding the fuel line. In that case the water lock slowly fills simply from the pump, and there is not enough air pressure to push it out, from just cranking. In such case one should always close the seacock of the water intake. (And open it quickly when the engine finally runs). it was canal water getting into the engine as it was perfectly clear water and no antifreeze so would make sense...

it wasnt isolated and drained as the engine bay is heated so i thought it wasnt needed...

now that is a thought !! i wonder if theres a way of testing that off the boat

this is exactley the same engine as mine... the big manifold with the cap at the bottom of the picture is what i called the heat exchanger.. what is it called just so i know for future reference please... thanks

thats the only picture i have at the moment..

thankyou tony for your help... i have seeked proffesional help hence why ive taken the head off.... its just that there so busy for next couple of months and thats why im attacking it myself.... i only said heat exchanger as thats what i assumed it was called.... i will have to get some photos... im not saying that the water issue is the cause of it not running but its a problem itself needs sorting anyway and then i will get back to trying to get it running again... i cant really start the engine with that amount of water in the sump... the head is now off and getting pressure tested and cleaned as its badly covered in sludge... put some diesel in the bores to leave overnight to see if it leaks past the rings... ive removed the injector pump and the springs are good in there... i will get the injectors cleaned while there out... but thanks again for your great input and advice...

ive rebuilt lots of engines over the years but not really had much to do with diesels and boat setups... the engine is raw water cooled so cant really watch water level... ive only took the heat exchanger off so far but did find some big lumps of carbon on exhaust outlet so think its long overdue for looking at.... going back today to have a better look as was getting pretty dark..

im sorry if ive upset people but i have tried everything that was suggested to me... the oil hasnt gone anywhere, the water was added to the oil somehow and then a black oily mess was being chucked out of the rocker breather pipe so something was majorly wrong.... when i pulled the dipstick it there was clear water and the black oily crap... i didnt want to risk starting it with that much fluid in the engine and cause further damage... my wife asked the head mechanic from the marina to come check and he said not to try starting it and that its either head gasket or cracked block or head... yes i am disabled and i was giving it my best shot but its not easy as its tight access and find it very exhausting and painful... even if it ran there was still something very badly wrong that needed fixing with so much water getting in from somewhere...

massive problem update !!! water coming out of the dipstick hole.. think i have a failure somewhere... thinking headgasket so ive already started to strip it down ready to inspect... hoping its a gasket and not a cracked head or block... thankyou everyone for your great advice and help... will update tomorrow hopefully once the head is off...

brand new 96amp starter battery just fitted... there is a decompression lever on the engine bet never had to use it...

im thinking cranking speed or lack of it... is there anyway of improving it or does it mean new starter motor?

proper can of easy start it is... just to rule something else out... the one im using is auto extreme engine start spray £2.99 a can

the rockers are opening from what i can see through the oilcap hole...

sorry im not ignoring anyone... i did say before that i was using a cheap brand of easy start but it is ether based so i would of thought it done something...

ah ha !! sounds like its the injection pump... when turning the engine over with the pipes removed from injector pump fuel just dribble out there is no pressure at all.. i thought it should spurt a little at least...

deffo just a drip... no force at all... oh its only a little 700cc 3 pot engine

i think thats why i need to check the injectors as thats the end of the line for fuel and the only bit that i havnt checked... im not sure how much pressure the injection pump should be pumping the fuel out? it just seems so feeble compared to what i see on others on u tube... i have an old 12v water pump in my shed, do you think i could use that to see if it makes a difference while im waiting for my new pump to arrive...

i have done it with the pipes off and fuel does come out on run setting and stops when in stop position.. is that what you mean?

i have tried that and it does work, i have ordered an electric pump to bypass the manual pump but will have to wait for it to arrive... when i put the new fuel filter on i used the lever on the side of the pump to get fuel back up and worked ok and filled the filter up quite quickly.

hi again.... quick update... put my hand over air intake and sucks like mad on my palm and alot of pressure if i do the same on the exhaust... have a trickle of fuel at injector unions.. i also put new fuel filter on just incase... the only thing i havnt done is check the injectors them selves so i think that will be my next check.. also done a complete oil change from the sump plug as i wanted to see if there was any metal particles that would tell me there was something major going on but all ok.. it must be the injectors as its the only thing i havnt checked... if theres nothing from any of them then i think it might be time to get the injector pump rebuilt... ive worked with petrol engines for years and never been as stumped as i have with this little one... but i will get there in the end... thanks again for all your advice and humour...

update !! pulled the dipstick to check oil level again and its sky high and feels contaminated, think it might be diesel... so tomorrow going to drain the oil and see if diesel is getting in the oil somehow... lift pump is only place it can get in the oil i think...

i used a cheapy easystart so might just be rubbish.... yes has a normal pump then then the high pressure injector pump...