KellyLyon

Ours is a semi trad but the gutters at the rear where we access the weed hatch are poor, the centre bar that’s removable also doesn’t drain properly and the stern is angled that way we are looking at modifying it in the near future

The people who fitted it (canal contracting) there is an inspection hatch next to it so we can easily check (there is no ballast in that section)

Hi all the bilge pump has only ran twice (we are hot on checking any unusual noise and I am on the boat 24/7). The bilge isn’t pumping out water now but we are still seeing it pool in the bilge but we are having heavy rain overnight and our engine is exposed (the draining system is quite poor) regarding the PRV this is vented into the cabin bilge (this was confirmed at the time of fitting) the cabin bilge is totally sealed from the engine and all inspection points are dry within the living areas so it’s unlikely to be the prv as we would see water in the inspection point right next to the calorifier we have dried and sorted the list so would agree that either there is a leak on the port side that was more under water although as mentioned previously the hull has been inspected a year ago and was visually fine when out of the water in May for blacking. My thought was that it is consistently warm in the engine bay and cupboards where the calorifier is and wondered if that could be a factor. We are out the water on the 8th so will let the surveyor take a look and report back

Hi it’s definitely the bilge pump the water pump is at the front of the boat and the two sound very different we can also see the water leaving the boat from the bilge exit point so it is definitely that. we hoover it out because the bilge pump doesn’t fully empty it (sea flow 750gph with automatic float switch) we can also manually activate from a switch in the cabin so it is definitely not the water pump and the plumbing doesn’t have access (with the exception of the calorifier engine pipes) have access to the same area as our bulk head is sealed and all cabin inspection points are dry The bilge hasn’t had to kick in for a week or so

Hi nothing that we noticed although with the dry weather we hadn’t checked as we only get it when it rains but it’s very unusual to ever here the bilge pump which is why we looked. We replaced all of the stern gear because we had a worn prop shaft and that’s now sealed (moved away from the traditional type) to a water cooled version and where the water appears to be coming in is the port side swim play running down then into the engine bay - it’s all odd but just thought as all of the heat generating equipment is on that side it may be linked think we will just have to get it out and triple check just to be sure. we have an engineer booked so hoping it’s nothing too serious

Hi The water didn’t cause the boat to list the change in weight made the boat list at this point there was nothing to suggest water ingress other than rain water. the water accumulated over the course of a week and we hoovered out about 10-20ltrs since hoovering that out we hoovered 8 litres but it had rained heavily Apologies just checked the hoover specs and it has a 20l drum so took out 15 litres on the second removal after heavy rain which is about normal for us after similar levels of rain

Could have been 0.6 too I guess Thanks for all the replies just to answer a couple of points raised we haven’t filled the hearing system this was done when the engineer fitted hit he did explain that the vent hose was vented to the cabin bilge (the calorifier is the cabin side of the engine bay) this was empty so we did rule that out

Thank you, yes this is a 1993 not 93ft, it’s only 50ft. I am not technical (although you have guessed that already) so the information was what was advised at the time the engineers came out. the calorifier is connected to the engine to heat water and we have the additional immersion when on shoreline the first engineer looked in the header and said we had lost around 4ltr which we thought odd as we haven’t ran the engine but that’s what he said. He pressed the pipes leading from the engine to the calorifier and said they were empty so it could have drained and that could be what’s in the bilge but he couldn’t locate any leak (he said this could be because they have drained) The second engineer said this wasn’t correct and the pipes would only have water when the engine is running and circulating the water. we haven’t ran the engine at this point. the header tank is on the engine as normal but it was just interesting to note that we had seen a drop in the level from Friday to Monday (engineer visit 1 and 2) I could be wrong about bar maybe it could have been psi? The device looked like a bike pump attached to the header tank and this was on the system for around 15min but didn’t lose any pressure in that time.

Thanks for replying The bulk head is sealed so water from the front can’t access the rear/engine bay. we have an inspection hatch immediately in front of the engine bay and that is fine so we don’t believe it to be coming from any other location we have watched and we did fully dry it out and for hours we had nothing but overnight the swim was wet to touch but it had also rained and we did have some water in the bilge as we would normally Thanks

Apologies for the long post but we have a real head scratcher. So we have a 93’ harboro boat. We have done a series of modifications including fitting a Victron multiplus 2 with 7 batteries and a new calorifier (75lt) with a 1kw immersion. We have also removed a very light bench style sofa and replaced with a sofa bed barn sofa all of this fitted to the port side of the boat. We noticed a slight list and so planned to remove a small amount of ballast. On the weekend we noticed that the bilge pump was kicking in and when we investigated it the engine bilge did have sufficient water around the sides of the engine (not under the engine pan). At first we thought that the calorifier had leaked as the pipes leading from the engine to the calorifier were empty - we called RCR who we paid to swap the calorifier and the engineer thought the water in the engine bay (was yellow) was coolant but he couldn’t locate a leak and opted to send another engineer at a different time. The second engineer came and checked the pressure on the water system which remained at 6bar although we couldn’t see any water in the header tank (we could still see water in the header tank when the first engineer came and we haven’t run the engine) anyway the second engineer cleared the water system and said that the water was sitting on the port side swim (uxter) and running down into the bilge and that he felt it was a slight leak on a weld or rust letting water through the uxter plate or through the side. we had the boat out of the water in May and blacked it and we didn’t see anything worrying. We replaced all of the stern gear and had to cut a sufficient amount of steel from the back and this was noticeably thick and well preserved much to the shock of our welder who thought it would be thinner. We have booked to get out of the water to investigate but I suddenly thought of something else. When we run the immersion heater and the victron is running the temp is c32 degrees and higher in the heat that we have had the last few days. Could we be creating crazy amounts of condensation in the bilge (all the heat stays in that area) the cooling tanks are directly located in the same area on each side of the boat Some additional points we do get rain in the bay as the gutters are poorly designed could this increase the amount of condensation? we also painted the bilges and cleaned everything in April again didn’t notice anything untoward, the boat had a survey a couple of years ago and the chines were worn so the previous owner paid to have a full over plate of the base in 6mm steel this was pressure tested and we have the receipts and could see the work when we had the boat out of the water in May we have removed the ballast and no longer list slightly but still creating very small amounts of water from the same place the temp is currently 26 degrees according to the victron and the outside temp is 18