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45 minutes ago, yorkshiredalesandy said:
I think I will figure this out on my own...
Thanks for the few positive replies to a few simple questions.
Didn't want it to turn into an argument?
The thing is, you'll find all the facts you'll need to know on the CRT website. And none of the divisive personal opinions.
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/
Good luck with your project, I'm sure you'll be delighted with boating. Its not like this out on the real cut!
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44 minutes ago, Lizette said:
It is 600w . I try to run engine until it shows 14.6 which will obviously drop when engine switches off. It generally remains at 12.7 or 12.8.
600W is LOADS! I had 560W when I lived aboard and it kept me going without running the engine at all for nine months of the year.
But this is to confuse the domestic battery bank with the engine starter battery. Mine charged the domestic bank as yours prolly does too!
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On 20/06/2017 at 07:56, MtB said:
I have one of those gennies too. Mine isn't leaking (yet).
Amazingly cheap at £159 (IIRC), but not so cheap if they only last a year...
A brief update to this thread. It's leaking now!
Only when ON, and still leaks whilst running. It seems to be leaking from the fuel isolator valve spindle itself, as well as from a split in the hose behind.
Given it is now eight years old and the chances of getting a new isolator valve are slim AND its a bit under-powered, maybe time for a new one.
Shockingly the tiny 700W Impax is now £260. Amazon is flogging this 2000W inverter genny for £179, if anyone is interested.
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41 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
What do you mean by "a panel" please?
I puzzled about that too, then realised its probably "solar panel".
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19 minutes ago, Lizette said:
Hi All
So sorry, I have spent all day removing starter motor ,testing battery etc. It seems the battery id defunked but an experienced boater had said he will take it and see if he can work some magic.
The starter motor was thoroughly cleaned and tested and was working off the boat. Tested with someone else's battery.All fine and dandy until I returned it to its rightful place .Although it's no longer clicking it isn't starting the boat.
It's a mystery! Any next move suggestions?
Carry out the tests suggested by Tony Brooks and post the results here?!
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46 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:
And, in general, canals were not built to facilitate mooring in at arbitrary 9spots. A boat not moving was a boat not earning.
And more particularly, a boat not moving was a bloody nuisance to all those that were.
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2 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
But if the OP came back and told us what they found, it would be even more valuable for others looking to solve a similar sounding problem.
I think that if someone asks for help, they should at least knowledge that help, even if it turns out to be wrong. I think just ignoring the thread is just plain rude.
True.
And curiously, doing a bit of pop philosophy reading up on why Occam's Razor is not as much help as one might first expect regarding whether God exists, or not, It came up with almost exactly the starter motor scenario we've been discussing!!
"But some caution is needed. If Ockham’s razor is used properly it can be a very helpful tool, but if used incorrectly it can become a dangerous instrument. First, consider a scenario where Ockham’s razor works. Suppose your car won’t start. Two possible explanations are a) that the battery is faulty and b) that the starter motor is faulty. You call a mechanic who quickly determines that there is indeed a problem with the battery. Since this would explain why the car didn’t start, there is no longer any reason to think that there is a problem with the starter motor. Ockham’s razor removes the need for the further explanation. Or to put it another way, the truth of the faulty battery hypothesis has explained away the faulty starter motor hypothesis. Of course, it is possible that there is a problem with both the battery and the starter motor. That cannot be ruled out until the car starts, but it would be really unlucky; based on the evidence so far and the application of Ockham’s razor, one explanation is sufficient."
https://philosophynow.org/issues/115/Science_Ockhams_Razor_and_God
P.S. Ockham and Occam are interchangeable spellings apparently, for the village near Guildford where the chap lived.
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2 minutes ago, jacko264 said:
It can be very annoying . people spend time trying to help others and they are ungrateful
Threads like this where the OP ignores the responses also help future visitors with the same problem, however. So they are not actually a waste of effort.
1 minute ago, Tracy D'arth said:They probably found the flat battery.
Yes Occam's Razor wins again, I bet!
https://www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/
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1 minute ago, BilgePump said:
I pay more for a no-frills, no amenities 27' towpath leisure mooring oop north here and licence for a little tupperware than have to shell out for the band A council tax and water at home. Would be near double that for liveaboard size NB. True residential marinas/moorings are an order of cost greater.
More fool you (and me!) then for paying for a mooring when CRT will let you moor on the towpath for free.
(Subject to the trivial requirement not enforced, to move a few hundred yards once a fortnight.)
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1 hour ago, Tracy D'arth said:
Nothing is free on the canals.
It is now dearer to live on a boat legitimately than in a house/flat.
Disagree.
Being allowed to moor for free on the public towpath for two week stretches at a time separated by one hour of cruising is legitimate CCing according to CRT, and is MUCH cheaper than living in a house.
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1 hour ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Add corrosion inhibitors to the canal water? No more boat blacking needed ever again. No more weed clogging up propellers. No more grumpy fisherman. Add antifreeze in the winter and we could cruise all year round.
It's an excellent idea. "Ankersol" by Morris Lubricants is an excellent inhibitor and costs only £18.90.
Oh, a thought though. Might need more than one.
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30 minutes ago, LadyG said:
There are some Residential Moorings ie with Planninh Permission, but they do exist, and you will have to add on the cost of Council Tax, this is bound to be significant.
Yes. Band "A" council tax is probably well over £1,000 in most areas now and in many, over £1,500 a year. This is in addition to the (probable) £3k-£4k a year mooring charge and £1k a year CRT boat licence.
I've an idea some of the marinas with legitimate residential moorings pay a lump sum council tax fee themselves and divide it up amongst the residential moorers, whixh works out cheaper for the moorers.
CCers only pay the CRT boat licence, so you can see why so many liveaboards prefer to moor out on the towpath, which is free.
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18 minutes ago, Midnight said:
Reported on NBW
NBTA said "CRT’s licence surcharge came into effect on 1st April the assciations tells. Unchallenged, the policy will allow CRT to raise licence fees on itinerant boaters in order to price them off the water. "
If C&RT raised all licenses to the level of the surcharge would that price everyone off the water or would the NBTA be happy to be paying same as Home Moorers?
IMO it would be a good idea for C&RT - extra money and less admin headache.
As a Home Moorer I'd be entirely happy to pay the same surcharge as CCers and CMers.
Provided it made the NBTA STFU.
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54 minutes ago, David Mack said:
That's not a hopper. It is designed to carry road-based plant, hence the drop down ramps on the right hand end. Since it also has hydraulic spud legs it looks to have been designed to allow a conventional excavator to be used for dredging.
Indeed it is, and their website is an interesting place to visit and look at all their specialist boats
https://rothenworkboats.co.uk/our-work-boats/
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28 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:
It’s possibly moored on land that is associated with the lease for UCC (assuming the site is on a long term lease to which CRT own the freehold) and therefore the mooring fee is essentially included.The Anchor at High Offley is probably similar.
It’s one reason you will observe the same boat moored on the towpath at such sites.
The old Boat Inn near Brinklow always has the same boat moored outside, there are many others.
I dare say many local marina dwellers curse the ‘overstayers’ every time they pass.
I was curious about the CRT licence, rather than the mooring permit.
A similar question crosses my mind about the sunken hulks on the Coventry and in the disused/private winding 'ole at Cropredy.
CRT eventually Section-8 s and removes unlicenced boats usually, but not these. Why not?
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53 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
The accuracy and / or the information released is really of little relevance - to me the crux of the matter is that C&RT repeatedly lied saying they had never had / seen a previous version of the report, claiming the one publicly released being the only one they had seen.
They could easily have said 'yes there was an interim report'.
You'd have thought that knowing they have a whistleblower in house (following the amending of the final accounts after being signed off by the board, but before submission to companies house) that they'd be a little more careful with their denials.
Thus illustrating Arthur's point above perfectly!
"Storm about nothing" seems to sum it up. Storm in a teacup would be over-egging it.
I agree with Arthur wondering WHY so many people get so greatly exercised about such utter trivia.
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On 09/03/2024 at 12:38, MtB said:
Bit of a jolt to the eyes, isn't it!
Discussion of this boat from 9/3/24.
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4 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
In which case how can you comment on something that you have not read ?
(O' I forgot for a moment - this is the Canal wold forum.)
I don't recall commenting on the OP.
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4 hours ago, Annie cariad said:
Bloody shame loads of interest over the years some issue over ownership she will sink/die on those moorings .... guess one of the owners will claim victory.....planks
In the meantime someone presumably, is paying to licence it?
If not why do CRT allow it?
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10 minutes ago, Allan(nb Albert) said:
The links are both in the article and the FOI request
Quite a few here including me will not click on a link to narrowboatworld.
They do not deserve the traffic.
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4 minutes ago, Midnight said:
Fix a few paddles on the Rochdale & Huddersfield though.
But no-one uses that. It should be closed and the funds spent on the busy canals down here!
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I too have a car radio with Bluetooth in the boat. I have Spotify and BBC Sounds apps installed on my phone which then plays via the car radio and its speakers via the bluetooth connection. Play volume, station, music choice etc are then all controlled directly on the phone handset.
Sounds more complicated written down than it actually is. Well worth trying.
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6 minutes ago, Stroudwater1 said:
Easter Monday, no sign of any earth moving equipment nor of any boats to remove it. Didnt see the Coventry end so more boats maybe up there. No sign of any earth moved at all, bar one channel dug between each side of the canal. All trees removed, and a Rothen boat to shift logs moored by the car park the Rugby side of the slippage. Still a fair amount of tree roots. The actual length of canal filled in is approximately 100-150 foot by use of a full length and a bit of working narrowboat. However the spoil must be around 15-20 foot or more piled up on the towpath above the usual towpath height.
It will be difficult to get a digger in from above, as the drop is a fairly sheer one from the field.
Rumour I heard is that CART are worried that a further landslip may get a boat and boater. It will be astonishing if its opened by Whitsun 2024 , but stranger things have happened.
Thanks for the report.
Frankly, its beginning to sound to me as though it will never be re-opened if you are right about the fears of more landslips. Such a decision would explain the lack of progress so far, and no work going on.
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14 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
Until confirmed, I suspect that it is the open circuit voltage, not the cranking voltage. So if the battery is discharged the OP could easily get over 12V dropping to sub 8V during cranking.
This is the first thing that needs clarifying.
Yes.
And then, once the off-load voltage has been confirmed as high enough, the voltage with the key turned to 'cranking' (starting) position please. So far we have focussed on how much it drops by.
But the battery voltage might hardly drop at all when the key is held in the start position, in which case this indicates solenoid switch failure or worn out brushes to me. But you know more than I do!
Also, giving the starter motor a sharp clout with something heavy (but not metal) will sometimes get a starter motor doing this working again temporarily.
Specialist Surveyor for 1900 era Dutch barge. Serving Oxford
in History & Heritage
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I've seen in passing several riveted iron dutch barges out on the hard standing and being worked on at the boatyard at Eynsham on the Thames. Oxford Cruisers Ltd. So there is probably a degree of expertise to be found there. Worth investigating at least.