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Just now, MrBadger said:
And an 8 is too big. Very specific olive! 🫒
Yes, 1.65mm too big.
(Engineering clearances notwithstanding!)
But looking at the photo again, I reckon you have a compression fitting on the greaser designed for 5/16" pipe and the pipe you actually have is 1/4", which is why it fell out in the first place. The 1/4" olive would have been able to squeeze through the 5/16" hole in the nut.
You need someone to actually measure the pipe and the fitting to determine the sizes. Then once known, decide on a sound method of connecting it all up.
1 hour ago, MrBadger said:Stratford upon Avon - heading that way eventually.. hopefully!
I was in Banbury this afternoon and was about to set off down the M40 home when I asked where you are, just on the off chance you were nearby or en-route.
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1 minute ago, MrBadger said:
Oh brilliant! The only issue is, do you think we can safely do a day's travel without greasing?
Easily.
I often forget to turn the greaser for days on end with no ill effects.
Don't tell anyone...
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25 minutes ago, MrBadger said:
The 6mm won't fit at all on the pipe.
In which case my bet is your pipe is actually 1/4", which is 6.35mm. A 6mm olive won't go over a 6.35mm pipe.
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5 minutes ago, MrBadger said:
Thanks Alex I will do this
Where are you? Not Banbury by any chance?!
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1 minute ago, Higgs said:
They don't initially require boaters to have a licence. It is enforceable through the NAA. CRT being the dominant partner, make the rules the marina applies.
OMG, you're beginning to get it!
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22 minutes ago, Higgs said:
CRT's jurisdiction is on its managed water. Not inside private property boundaries, and where the water is above private property/land.
It should be patently obvious, that no access fee would be required to enter or exit CRT's own property. A private marina isn't, therefore, an access fee.
Self-evidently wrong.
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1 minute ago, Higgs said:
CRT have no entitlement to require a licence.
Self-evidently wrong.
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14 hours ago, Higgs said:
No moorer is involved, but the marina is. And the moorer pays whatever the mooring charges are, and they include 9% access fee.
Ah yes, the NAA. That needs reviewing too. 9% is ridiculously cheap and needs putting up.
It costs CRT an absolute FORTUNE to provide the canal, without which the marinas would have no boats and no business.
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2 minutes ago, Ronaldo47 said:
My dictionary gives both forms, but in principle I agree with you.
Maybe refer the author of the dictionary to my post then, lol!
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8 hours ago, Onewheeler said:
I thought that my tiller was fine like that, but my son and his mates proved otherwise. However, I find the small resulting bend in the tiller arm rather satisfactory from the point of view of standing in the rear doors and steering.
I suspect that entering a narrow lock at a fair lick then engaging astern and revving the engine with enthusiasm, can lead to the rudder snapping across to full deflection and the handle of an over-long tiller catching the lock wall while the boat is still travelling forwards.
Especially if the steerer is not expecting it and does not have a really good grip on the tiller.
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1 hour ago, Ronaldo47 said:
These two forums (fora?) are the only web sites that exhibit these problems.
I hold that if you're writing in English, the plural is "forums". If you're spouting forth in Latin, the plural is "fora".
Hope that helps...
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4 hours ago, David Mack said:
Some time back I filled up at a boatyard where the customer fuel declarations were all in a ring binder on the shop counter. Flicking through I saw that almost every customer had declared 0% or perhaps 5% proplusion. But the yard didn't have that many moorings!
I may have been one. I usually intend to use diesel mostly for heating when I buy it.
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3 hours ago, Maudesmaster said:
Anybody sitting near a 3 blade propeller 1”1/2 bore and can measure the diameter of the boss boat side
I’m making a puller and need to know distance from shaft centre to outside boss for threaded studding
have new prop but on boat in Penkridge I’m in Canterbury waiting hip op
lost the fag packet with dimensions on
thank you
I have quite a few propellers lying around in my hovel, within a few feet of me. I'll have a measure.
First prop, a Crowther prop made for my Kelvin K1 is 71.0mm outside diameter at the fat end of the boss.
Second prop is 66mm outside diameter. This is off a lifeboat that had a Lister HRW2 in it. It is actually bigger in diameter at the centre than at either end. Peaking at about 70mm I'd guess but my vernier won't reach.
Third prop is of uncertain origin and the boss is really bulbous in shape. The machined flat area at the end for the nut and washer to bear on is 58.8mm diameter but the centre of the boss is closer to 85mm.
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Being a river with a PRN, maybe there is no obligation to have insurance to get a rivers only registration.
Just a guess, I don't know.
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2 minutes ago, Onewheeler said:
I've been doing some modifications to the domestic water circuits at home and have found that most of the gate valves and "washing machine" ball valves I fitted twenty-five years ago are inoperable (won't close properly). I don't have anything quite so old on the boat, but wonder if anyone has ideas for valves which maintain their capability after long periods of not being used?
All valves in my experience have their problems with advancing age.
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10 minutes ago, BEngo said:
Being a Kelvin, mine has always been a Marine engine. Originally ordered for a new boat to be called Skylark, to a Brighton address. Tripping between the piers maybe?
Did not quite a few get installed in lighthouses? Or is that an urban myth?
It strikes me that owners (or more particularly, sellers) are free to make up whatever tosh they like about the origins of their engine, in cases where there is no supporting documentation!
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1 hour ago, haggis said:
I don't think we do but we are keeping quiet about it 🙂 . I have heard on the grapevine that some suppliers are quite happy with zero propulsion for any boats but I couldn't possibly comment on that !
I think if you drill down into the legislation it actually requires one to declare "Intended Use", i.e. the use in the future of what you're buying now. Not what the current batch already in the tank is being used for.
So if you intend your next purchase of fuel to be 100% domestic, because the tank is currently half full of say 60/40, who is in any position to prove you wrong about your intentions at the point of purchase?
You might however, change your mind later...
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2 hours ago, Lady M said:
I don't actually agree with the CC surcharge approach but, as a home moorer, I know I pay a lot more to CRT than any CC-er. Therefore I am offended by the behaviour of CM-ers, especially when it affects other waterway users. Having, on holiday, followed a group of 3 CC-ing boats round the Four Counties ring and sometimes found my preferred stopping place full, sometimes I get annoyed by CC-ers too. On one occasion, they told me they had decided to stay on a 48 hour mooring for a third night because they liked it there.
There are two fatties which have been hogging the 48hr moorings here for months.
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2 minutes ago, christiaan said:
I have heard that if you have separate tanks then it's less of a problem. I am thinking of having a separate smaller tank fitted for propulsion and keeping the larger tank just for heating. Then normal diesel in one and fully rebated red in The other. Just a thought!
I don't think that will get you far with the fixed 60/40 retailers.
Their refusal to budge on this originates from the right of any business to sell to whomever they like or not, under whatever terms of business they choose to impose. There is no legal obligation on the marina to "treat" with you to sell fuel on your terms as opposed to theirs.
If you choose to make a PITA of yourself over it, you might find yourself with no mooring at all when it comes to renewal time.
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1 hour ago, dmr said:
yes but, The tanker hose will not fit the boat filler, it will be huge and deliver fuel at a massive rate.. You will also have to fill in the suppliers declaration stating why you can use red diesel and they might or might not be happy about selling to a boat . Also the marina will likely object to a tanker enterring their property to compete with them.
As the op only fills the tank once every blue moon then HVO would be a better/safer option but thats even more difficult.
Yep, agree with all of that. The OP is going to have to go to considerable trouble to avoid paying the 60/40 split whichever alternative approach to getting fuel s/he decides use.
I'd suggest just sucking it up and paying the split.
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I can imagine that snapping off at the point it joins the brass tiller bar, if being pushed hard over in a manoeuvre with a fair it of power on.
With the resultant risk of the steerer taking a look.
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Another option might be to order some red diesel/gas oil from one of the domestic fuel suppliers who will deliver it in a tanker.
E.g. https://www.boilerjuice.com/uk
Minimum delivery size happens to be 500 litres, conveniently.
Currently about £1 a litre plus 5% VAT for my area. Yours might be different.
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8 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:
The answer is simple. If you can't thoil it, don't go.
That is SUCH a ridiculous word! Even though the meaning is appropriate, lol.
Just as the term "Solicitrix" is ridiculous for a.... go on have a guess... (or look it up)!
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7 minutes ago, Higgs said:
It was, to me, when I moved onto the canal. 2003. Now you know.
So as a newbie then, you hardly know anything yet.
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Greaser Problems
in Boat Building & Maintenance
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The correct size pipe will be a lovely accurate and snug fit into the hole in the greaser connection. I reckon some muppet bodged your 1/4" pipe in with possibly a 5/16" olive (the correct size for the fitting) which was never going to crush down enough to grip the 1/4" pipe, which is why it all fell apart and also why the olive came off the pipe.
Shame you're Stratford. Not that far but completely the opposite direction from my destination!