Denis R
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This is going to sound a bit like a Carry On film "Matron, we've a blockage in the back passage" maintenance issue but.... I'm getting a funny smell from the gas locker, a sort of sweet sickly smell with a whiff of rubber in it; plus a similar smelling light coating of something on the regulator. If I touch any of the components it leaves the smell on the hands and everything has a very slight, what I could only describe as clamminess to it. I'm not getting what I'd recognise as a smell of gas per se and the gas bottles are lasting as long as they ever have. I did have to replace the regulator a few months back, which failed open and blew a sheet of flame up my arms when I turned on the hob. Joy. The old regulator too had the sickly sweet smell and what appeared to be traces of a liquid in it which didn't evaporate quickly. The installation is 2 x 3,9Kg bottles, tails with NRVs, regulator and shut off valve in a low locker 'cos of the tug style bow.
Anybody got any ideas as searching gas, smell and sticky didn't bring enlightenment....
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Kev, it appears that BW have ideas to address this via the mooted 'Roving Mooring Permit'. From my understanding of its intention, it would permit precisely the behaviour you describe. In my area there is a fair sized community that seems to move only along the Blisworth to Braunston stretch, who could be usefully accommodated by this, but currently appear to be able to do so on a Continuous Cruising licence.
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If you've got a proper tank thermostat rather than just the internal cut-out stat of the heater it makes a considerable difference. I don't use an immersion, don't have the maths, but find I've still got piping hot water a day after switching off the boiler and/or engine so think the insulation is pretty good.
My two-penny worth, fit a timer if you've no tank stat or your insulation is iffy.
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One solution if the thread is knackered (whatever it is) is to drill and tap to the next size up that matches a bolt/fitting you can find or a helicoil. Although in that case (helicoil) it is more of a specialist activity (and can be expensive) unless you are familiar with them as getting it right so that it doesn't leak is key.
Looking at the photo it appears that the face is machined, so it should be possible to fit a helicoil and then assuming you use a fitting with a parallel thread, use a Dowty washer to make the seal between the hex of the fitting and the head face.
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So where in the 1995 Act is provision made for this?
Absolutely no idea Chris. Just in my mind I put commercial activity in a totally different pigeon hole to continuous cruisers, moorers, snoozers, marina moorers, on-line moorers and non boat owning aspirants.
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According to your examples someone who used their boat to haul coal from point A to B once a week would not be using it 'bona fide for navigation' which is patently absurd. Do you have an issue with the various coal boats that use the same part of the system to ply their trade?
I don't as they're not trading on a continuous cruising licence or pretending they're continuous cruisers. They have a commercial licence which in my view entitles them to come and go as they please.
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Alan, regarding your quest for a pre-formed heater elbow - try Demon Tweaks, they do all sorts of pipes and hoses for home builds and kit-cars. A bit flash and perhaps pricey, but good.
Else a rummage round your local motor factors for a heater hose for an Escort or whatever, anything with an elbow end, then cut the straight portion to suit your installation?
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161 - miserable!
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I think most people, forced to bridgehop would go for that.
I do too Carl, but I'm not sure about 'forced'. I'm sure there's more free will in play here, for example there are moorings available on my stretch of the GU, should the hoppers wish to avail themselves of a mooring.
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"Sales of continuous cruising licences have been growing significantly and, despite the terms and conditions of the licence, there is evidence that a growing number choose to remain on temporary moorings in relatively narrow geographic areas. The risk of congestion on particularly popular waterways therefore presents a management challenge that we must address.
“BW is therefore considering workable policies to implement during 09/10 that will encourage the proportion of boaters without a home mooring but who wish to remain within a specific area of the network to choose an appropriate mooring option. The option of a ‘roving mooring permit’ could cater for those who like to have no fixed base and cruise short distances between temporary moorings within easy reach of their work or other land-based commitment. By purchasing such a permit, they would no longer be classified as continuous cruisers.” Source: Simon Salem BW, via Waterways World
Well, there's an idea to add to the pot....
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There is no argument. Continuous cruising is perfectly well defined in the guidelines, anything else is bullshit. Continuous moorers pretend there is an area of reasonable doubt for them to hide in, but there is not. there is only a contrived area of wilful misunderstanding. Obey the rules or sod off. We don't need new systems we need the existing ones enforced.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, but all credit to Dave for setting up the coconut for everybody else to knock over.
Dave, I think we're trying to treat the symptoms rather than the root cause, which in my mind S'Nib has hilighted above.
Denis
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Can no one understand why having spent loads of cash I can't afford on a mooring I get resentful when I see others just claiming a free online mooring?
I do and I get resentful too.
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Relatively few threads end up in arguments and without the banter the forum would die a death.
You only have to look how many viewings the arguments get to see this.
Which perhaps closes the circle back to David's original post. Whilst the (relatively few?) argumentative threads can be great spectator sport, many less abrasive contributors often get caught in the cross-fire.
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The third thing is that the search facility is RUBBISH and I pity any newbie who is steered, ungraciously, to it's door.
Take your points Carl, but on the subject of the search engine - I used to think it was pretty awful too, until somebody pointed out the advanced search features in a post somewhere. Using advanced search seems to produce a markedly better result. Or have I got low expectations?....
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It is not limited to this forum.
I have asked genuine questions on some other sites and been given the "Why is this cretin asking such an obvious question" reply.
I ask questions because I don't know the answer and I (mistakenly?) thought that everyone on forums with experience would willingly help out.
Oftentimes that's forum speak for "If you'd used the search engine and read around a bit first, you'd have found this answered many times before." I've noticed that on a car forum to which I subscribe, questions are often preceded by words along the lines of "I've tried the search engine, but didn't find anything covering this...." as a way of deflating the 'obvious question' riposte.
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Completely off topic I know, but can you give me the link to that showdown. I bet it had as much entertainment value as the Ricky Hatton fight
Well, you asked. I think this is the one....
Edited to say: Or one of them....
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Hi David,
I can understand what' you're getting at but the example you gave perhaps isn't the most outrageous of recent threads - the words expansion vessel and stray current spring to mind.... Apart from some of the more unsavoury tirades in the mentioned threads, I didn't think things were too bad.
I do agree that the fundamental principle of debate - you are free to criticise the idea but not the person - is ignored/forgotten/unknown more often than I would like.
Hang on in there, as with the 'real' world, the virtual world encompasses the full palette of characters....
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We have a similar deal and the benefit of taking it out when rates were higher is that now rates are dropping so is our agreement term.
If I factor in all the odd bits and pieces I've added and the enhancements made since the boat was built a couple of years back, it adds pretty penny to the overall cost of the boat. With the way things are now, I'm not sure that if I had to sell it at the moment, it would leave me much, if any of a surplus.
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Shall we try and get back on topic?
Are any of you seasoned boaters feeling the pinch?
Valiant attempt to get the thread back on topic Phylis! Things were beginning to get tighter but the recent drop in oil prices should ease the load a bit. I think the next biggest benefit I could see would be my finance cost coming down due to lower interest rates. In my case it wouldn't affect my monthly payment but would at least mean I'm not paying for so long.
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I would be needing to see a substantial benefit in order to justify an investment of between £600 - £700 for an Axiom, when my existing prop should be fine for a few more years yet (fingers crossed). I like Tony's idea, I was thinking along similar lines and in the absence of anything better, at least it would get a bit closer to a quantified study.
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Blimey, it doesn't look like anything I was expecting. I expected it to look more like some intricate multi blade submarine prop than a paddle blade prop off a C130. Intriguing. As per other posters, would love to see some quantified data.
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I think it was Gary Player.
Yep John, that's who I've read it attributed to.
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I will also bet that many of those who remain in work will see the unemployed as culpable for their own plight right up to the point where they loose their own job.
At the risk of migrating this thread further, I'm not so sure that's the case this time round SirNib. I get much more of a feeling of 'my God it's hit them, how long before it hits us?'
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If there are people who would really insist on an insulated system in order to prevent them creating an accidental short then perhaps they should have the tools taken away and be told to sit quietly whilst the nice man mends the boat.
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Thanks guys - wrong data input to the search engine it seems. Interesting read Peter, thanks. Lots of what's alluded to in the article seems to be present in my installation. The high pressure hoses are as near as damn it horizontal, there's no upward slope to speak of from the bottles to the regulator and the regulator outlet is at the bottom. I 'll have a look and see if the regulator can be mounted any higher. I could go along with the plasticiser theory, the smell's got that rubbery aromatic aroma to it....