Mr Who

According to BBC news, this boat was deliberately set adrift last night

What do the experts here think the average engine hours for say a year, for a live aboard should be about?

Where have you been, on another planet? Nothings safe anywhere anymore, no matter how much its worth. I cant believe you left it out unattended for a couple of days, darn bad news though, I`d be livid, probably more at myself for leaving it out. I Hope you dont leave your new one out.

Thanks for that Phill. So the boat is for sale, But, there may be a hundred and one reasons why though, maybe it`s actually been fixed elsewhere? You mentioned another builder, maybe it has been refitted by these? Red herring? Maybe its simply that the original builder applied for info and got a load of B--ll S--t as the owner knew it was him? Maybe as I said before, it could all part of the claim against the builder to help them get a better deal off a judge? If they can prove they have bent over backwards to settle it fairly, it would certainly go in their favour, and they could be awarded even more costs. (Do a google) Maybe they came to an amicable agreement in their dispute and its all sorted, if they didn`t, after all this time, what does this tell you about it`s original builder though? Your right theres always two sides to every story, but I think dealing with cases like this people use professionals and they will not make up stories, or at least I wouldnt think they would, so there must be more to this than your friendly boatbuilder is telling you, friendly and nice doesnt make them honest, I doubt he would say yes I did it bad if he had. I just think he should have made his customer happy at the end of the day if the customer doesnt go away happy, he`s not going to be recomended and it`s only the builder that will suffer, and in my opinion so he should. I think any tradesman in this posistion is a fool to let the customer slip out of his reach and its their own stupid fault. I definately think we should stop all this speculation (and thats all it is) as it is doing no one anygood, it`s keeping it in the fore front of everyones minds, the builder wont sell boats and the poor chap whos trying to sell it for whatever reason will never sell it. I do know the owner of the boat is on this forum and I havent seen him around for some time, There may be a reason? I`m sure we will all be informed how things have progressed in the future unless he has just had enough of us all sticking our noses into his business, as I remember it was not he who bought it to our attention in the first place. Just to bring it back on topic did they have this contract I wonder?

Hi Phil I`m sure your refering to my reply? My sincere appologies to Charles, it certainly wasn`t meant to be like that, its just type, Sorry, I just feel for these people that have lost money. Re` the Westwood saga, can you please tell us the other side of the story, and why they were so wrong to complain? and re` it being for sale, Maybe it`s been in for repair? Or it may be something to do with their court case if there is going to be a court case, You probably know more than any of us on that score. After all it`s been a while now. Have you ever heard of your "obligation to mitigate your Loss"? This would be helpful to the defendant in any litigation case, as it could save them money, so it shouldnt be seen as anything malicious if the boat is for sale without being repaired anyway, and the higher the price obtained the less the defendant will have to pay. If this is the case and WE DO NOT KNOW, Do you? Anyway please forgive me if this comes across yet again as combative it`s just an oppinion and not meant to be

Just found an interesting site, well it is if you enter some details of your boat builders, you will even see court orders and dates, if they have any that is www.ukdata.com

Agreed and that is why Pav should have the guts to get out now rather than later, should he have serious doubts. £2000 is a lot to lose, but its better than £60 000 or whatever.