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  1. The second part of my investigations last week. 

     

    I had a little time to look at Smith's Canal at the lower end, down at Foxhole and the White Rock Copperworks. As always is the case, being on your own exploring around these kinds of areas with heavy undergrowth and uneven ground poses significant risks (especially with ice on the ground), so I was unable to do as much as I wished. 

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    This is a fairly well-known view of Smith's Canal as it enters a tunnel under the White Rock Copperworks. I'm not sure why there are two entrances here at the northern end (there appears to be only one exit at the other end) but there is quite a lot of spoil all around and it is possible parts have been covered over. I still have a lot of documentation to read about both the White Rock works, so this may all be explained somewhere.

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    Looking back north from above the tunnel entrance. It is intriguing that the wider area at the far end in the photo appears to be the only wider place where boats could wind. From the tunnel approach to the coal staithes on the river (through the tunnel and along the river bank for some hundreds of metres) there is simply no space for a winding hole. I did wonder if these horse-drawn boats (do any exist now?) were perhaps double-ended. However, there is no doubt that there has been slumping of the uphill slope and it is possible that any winding hole was simply filled in later, as space is at a real premium here. the photos don't show how steep the slope is either side of the canal bed, and they also managed to squeeze many narrow buildings in too.

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    This is the southern end of the tunnel, with a rather curious wall arrangement above the tunnel entrance. It was incredibly difficult to move around this area and I wasn't able to explore the last few hundred meters to the remnants of the coal staithes on the river. The canal 'bed' is currently at 14m here, the same as at Llansamlet Church. So there were no need for locks. However, the last 0.75km from the accepted end at Llansamlet and the probable end does see a rise of about 4m suggesting there may have been two or more locks at the very beginning of the canal. Even today there is a strong flow of water from a spring near Scott's Pit so this could have been a source of water for that very short pound.

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    This is included only to show the very beautiful stone work that is still there. It looks like the retaining wall height was increased at some stage, but using thinner, flatter stones.

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    One of the most interesting features was the use of openings in the side wall of the tunnel to allow coal to be unloaded almost directly into furnaces and smelters. There are four of these openings. Until recently these were completely accessible, but sadly security fencing has been put up to prevent people like me coming to harm on icy January mornings.

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    Security fencing and remains of part of the old White Rock copperworks.

     

    For anyone interested in this canal and the industrial history of this area - once described as the most desolate, derelict and polluted landscape in Europe - there is a good selection of references. The early OS maps are great (NLS Library) but also the usual selection of specialist maps, the listed buildings are archaeo sites, etc. Next stop will be the National Archives.

    Obviously the Hadfield book. Some books - notably D. Morgan Rees "Industrial Archaeology of Wales" - are surprisingly unhelpful though.

    "Swansea Copper", Chris Evans and Louise Miskell

    "Copperopolis: Landscapes of the Early Industrial Period in Swansea"

    "The Smelting of Copper in the Swansea District of South Wales: From the Time of Elizabeth to the Present Day", George Grant Francis

    "The Lower Swansea Valley Project", ed. K.J. Hilton.

    One of the chapter authors of the last book filmed their regeneration work in 1962 and has included not only the original footage on YouTube but also three other versions that show the same scenes in 2012 and also plot the exact filming locations. Although there is nothing of Smith's Canal, it does illustrate the scale and nature of what lay in the Lower Swansea Valley and it is easy to compare this with what is there now. The house on the left of the bend at 0:36 in the video is now this house on Jersey Road in Swansea.

     

    I'm quite interested in exploring more but would need like-minded people to do it, for safety reasons.

  2. 14 hours ago, buccaneer66 said:

    The entire route of this canal can be seen on the Welsh Tithe maps online.

    If you want a really obscure canal to find in South Wales,find the Pen Clawdd Canal

     

    The Welsh tithe maps are extremely interesting and I have been using them to track down something even more remote than the Pen Clawdd Canal. They don't add much to the story of the upper Smith's Canal though.

    Funnily enough, the canals around the Loughor estuary are already on my radar, as I spent last Wednesday trying to get access to parts of the Kymer's Canal network around Kidwelly and Burry Port. Easier said than done, as with all the canals in this area.

  3. More on Smith's Canal

    I decided I wanted to know more about this remote canal, so travelled to Swansea last week to see what more could be found. The reality is that even where there should be remnants - because the canal hasn't been built over - it is remarkably difficult to get to the original line of the canal. From Llansamlet church eastwards to the starting point, the canal should be accessible and as it's the absolute middle of winter, there is minimum vegetation. But still it's almost impossible to quickly or easily access the line of the canal.

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    This is the Plough and Harrow pub, and looking east. The canal ran towards me along the tarmac (which is now the entrance to the Llansamlet Community Centre). The pub car park is to the left. There is a b&w photo of this scene and is the only photo I have seen of the canal fully in water, although without any boats.

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    This is now looking west from the south side of the community centre. The canal ran alongside the rough grass and the lower brick wall at the end is where the canal continued. Most of the next mile is covered by the Swansea Enterprise Park.

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    On the other side of Church Road in Llansamlet, looking east. I had hoped to walk this stretch towards the start of the canal. But it just wasn't possible. The fly-tipped rubbish is obvious. The land beyond doesn't seem to be used but access is tricky as there are few public footpaths. It's not even clear who owns the land. I'm not overly bothered about trespassing as long as I'm not damaging crops, fences, assets, etc.  But physically it wasn't possible. The water can be seen here.

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    This is the route of a public bridleway (not just a footpath!) from the end of Tawe Road (off Peniel Green Road) and it goes north towards the new B4625. Completely impassable and no sign of a path. The wall on the right is the wall of the former Swansea Vale Railway. Long gone.

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    Getting to the canal from the north - the B4625 - is a lot easier although the path is obviously little used. The fly-tipping at the southern end might have something to do with it. The canal line is straight ahead along the line of the young trees, with marsh to the right, and this is heading NE. Ive learnt that on many disused canals, the trees tend to grow out of the former canal bed rather than the bank or the former towpath.

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    The canal crosses the B4625 here but no trace on either side beyond some small ridges.

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    The canal was crossed by the Swansea Vale Railway. However, as the canal was closed in 1852, I'm not even sure if there was a bridge over the canal. This is a field between the old railway embankment and the M4 embankment  off to the right. In early 6" OS maps, there is clearly a line of marsh and even 'canal width' open water across this field, with the latter more or less where these ponies are standing.

     

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    The start of the canal was the Gwernllwynchwyth estate and the pits around it. The most likely end point (ignoring what Coflein record as they are clearly wrong) was Scott's Pit, seen here. The old engine house remains and can be seen on a rise in the middle right of the photo. The canal almost definitely ended in this copse in the field. It is possible that the canal continued just beyond the barbed wire at the lower edge of the photo. However, this seems to be on a slight rise whereas the copse is flat.

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    This is the road and parking opposite the Scott's Pit site (to the right). However, this odd road shape shape has been here since the earliest OS maps and must surely have something to do with the canal and/or local waggonways.

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    The engine house at Scott's Pit. There has been little excavations done to date. 

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    The field to the immediate south of Scott's Pit with the copse beyond the frost on the far side of the field. The photo of the copse above was taken from the gap in the trees on the upper left.

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    An additional twist to this story is the Gwernllwynchwyth (try saying that to a taxi driver after a few pints) which is now completely ruined and overgrown with absolutely no attempt to even make it safe let alone any form of interpretation. The estate was the focal point of the coal estate, with pits scattered around. Smith's Canal (Smith bought the estate early on) was replaced and it is likely that the upper 0.75km was closed early on and a waggonway ran from the pits around Gwernllwynchwyth for about 500m to a 'new' terminal basin.

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    As a final treat (I will do an update on the Hafod-Morfa end of the canal in due course) this is part of an artificial water supply system known as Chauncey's Great Leat that supplied water from streams in the Gwernllwynchwyth estate to coal mines and early industry in Pentrechwyth several miles to the southwest, close to the Tawe. This arrangement doesn't make total sense because one immediately asks the question why not get water from the Nant y Fendrod or even the Tawe itself. Bricks and stone linings can be seen in the watercourse, but - as everywhere with this long-lost canal - it's so difficult to access.

    On 15/12/2022 at 22:57, oboat said:

    Thanks for this, it's great stuff. I was told about Smiths about 10 years ago but time prevented detailed investigation. Also good to see the the pics.
    If I recall correctly I was told Smiths canal was on a level above the Swansea and there was a question that the two were not connected? 

    There is no connection possible between Smith's Canal and the Swansea Canal. The former is on the eastern side of the Tawe, the latter alongside-ish on the western side.

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  4. Little bit of an update on this as I am writing a book and out of the blue, that activity intersected with canal history. Recent weeks of research have revealed such fascinating canals as the Neath (and various navigation predecessors), Tennant's, Glan-y-Wern (and I haven't even got to the Swansea Canal yet).

     

    I had never even heard of Smith's Canal until the last few days, but it now has me hooked.

     

    It is interesting that the Coflein information is suspect, especially at the northern end, probably because this canal closed so early and there is **almost** no trace remaining of the canal. Parts of the route were then obliterated by a tramway replacement and then the Swansea Vale Railway. So it looks to me as if RCAHMW and GGAT input has focussed on the southern end around the tunnel and the coal staithes at Foxhole, but up toward Llansamlet the information has largely been seemingly pulled from early OS maps - and not very effectively.

     

    Hadfield writes barely four paragraphs about the canal, and most of that is quoting from a single thesis about the development of Swansea and a history of Swansea Docks, so seemingly very little has been recorded about it. To be fair, there's really not a lot written or recorded about the early Neath estuary canals either.

     

    The canal is stated as having started "near Gwernllwynwith House", the estate of the eponymous John Smith. Hadfield then mentions the canal being paralleled by a tramway to a nearby pit - Scott's Pit - half a kilometre north on the road to the village of Heol Las. Yet RCAHMW state that the end of the canal is at grid ref SS 69365 97890. This is undoubtedly because this is the end of a watered section. From this point it is clear that a tramway ran straight as an arrow across several fields to the pit at Gwernllwynwith, and that tramway ran across the end of the canal and ended on the north side of the cut.

    However, even a cursory glance at the same map shows marshy ground - as wide as the watered section and continuing on the same line. Indeed, on another map, this marshy stretch is even marked 'Old Canal'. It seems likely that this marshy length was closed before the part still then in water because otherwise the tramway would more likely to have been terminated on the south side of the cut, rather than the north side. 18th Century Welsh pit owners weren't renowned for their habit of spending money unnecessarily.

     

    So where did this older cut go? Well it seems to have reached only another 0.73km further than the RCAHMW-stated endpoint at SS 69720 98365, at the northeastern corner of Scott' Pit. As well as the marshy strip, these early maps show two additional rectangular 'canal-width' water-filled hollows, one now hard up against the M4 embankment where the Peniel Green - Heol Las road passes under the motorway and another just to the west of that minor road just beyond the motorway. These depressions have now vanished but the first one is marked on several subsequent maps. It is possible that the second depression was the actual terminal basin as the map shows a curious change in the size of the adjacent road at this point. There is reference to the wharf at Birchgrove yet there is no sign of the canal extending to that village. Scott's Pit is as close at it gets. Between Scott's Pit and the village (and more pits) is Birchgrove House, so possible that the landowner didn't want a canal crossing his land - purse speculation that.

     

    On LIDAR there are faint traces of the canal but it's the maps that are the real clues. I am aware of the presece of Townsend's Great Leats but these are several hundred metres to the south at their closest. However, it possible that the canal was built over the functioning leat, as the leat is known to have served the Pwll-Mwr colliery (close by the junction of the GWR and the SVR at Winsh-wen). 

     

    Despite frequent reference to the canal closing in 1852, it's really not known when it closed and it is possible parts of the canal remained open considerably later, if only to bring coal the short distance from pits to the multitude of works that covered the Lower Tawe Valley.

     

    Looking at the local maps, it would seem that there were tramways coming in from other local pits (one of them even marked as Smith's Road - although obviously Smith is a common name). 

     

    Listing of specific records of interest

    Smiths Canal - overall reference

    Coal staithes at Foxhole (Southern Terminus)

    White Rock Tunnel (under White Rock Copperworks) [The Copperworks record includes a map of the site that includes the canal and location of the side openings]

    Canal Bridge, Llansamlet Village (Now demolished. Was by Plough & Harrow Pub. Newer tarmac shows exact location)

    Smith Canal [sic] GGAT Record

     

     

     

  5. The city of Cardiff has spent much of the last 50 years trying to eradicate all traces of its former canals, but it seems times are achangin'.

    However, not sure the Bute East feeder canal was really part of the canal, was it? The Glamorgan Canal ran some 100m west through what is now the St David Centre before curving around onto Mill Lane and past the Customs House.

     

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/exposed-light-day-first-time-24955531

  6. I finally decided that there were enough unusual and improbable home locations that I decided to press ahead with painting 'Stranraer' below the name 'Cypress' as a tribute to my late father's hometown. Given the move of the ferries to Cairnryan in 2011, I think NB Cypress is now the third-biggest vessel registered in Stranraer after two 110,000GRT Stena LNG tankers. Mine is the only one that can get round Sutton Stop in one swing.

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  7. NB Cypress has been restored to life. Thank you to all for your extremely valuable help.

     

    I decided to call RCR who were extremely helpful and after co-ordinating no less than five parties (me, RCR centre, RCR engineer, person with key to the boat, person with key to the wharf), all the planets lined up Friday morning: a new Numax XV31MF with freshly baked cranking power ("You could restart Chernobyl with that"), carefully timed button pushing and a swing of the lever and she started up.

     

    So it was goodbye to the friendly folk at Swan Lane Wharf and we then floated off to Hinckley, stopping after three minutes to retrieve a builder's rubble bag that wound itself around the prop. The very last bridge (#17) removed the 'splitter' on the exhaust (sure there's a technical term) but a lovely days' cruise. If I hadn't been a bit pressed for time, I'd have gone down to the basin, one of my favourite places on the network.

     

    As always when entering a strange marina for the first time, there was a huge socially-distanced audience and the still air turned into a gale force northerly, and I successfully demonstrated my party trick of manoeuvring a boat backwards and forwards to no effect.

     

    The only negative part of the day was the "That's some tickover" comment from the sour-faced canal guru at Bridge 5, who was barely tied up at the visitor mooring. The 3VRH has quite a fast note, and because Cypress swims so quickly (with no wake, no wash), I usually give her a burst of reverse and then take it out of gear when going past moored boats but that does - for a short time - increase the engine speed. 

    I was so stunned by his sarcasm, all I could do was turn to look at my zero wash and wake, and ripple of a bow wave and shake my head. But at least I had a further hour to think up witty and cutting retorts.

     

    But again, thank you all for your helpful advice and commentary. We don't know the exact cause of the problem, but plan to do a bit more diagnostics.

  8. On 10/05/2021 at 09:13, LEO said:

    Hi,

    The batteries in Cypress are just 2 years old, the engine starts well normally, but it's not a 'quick turn of the key' starter, it'a vintage job! and needs some respect, It's dead easy to flatten the battery by just turning it over without any thought and cables do become hot under these circumstances.

     

    I would not let anybody have a go a starting it without some thought and instruction. That engine needs careful use of the de-compression lever, easy starting on that engine is achieved by using the lever to decompress the engine, turning it over a few times with the starting handle, then turn it over on the starter motor getting revs up, then throw the decompression lever and away she goes.

     

    Sometimes, with that engine a blast from a blow torch helps, it's a good engine that one, but takes a knack to start it, it sounds as though the 'numpties' trying to start it have not got the experience and just keeping a digit on the starter button will not get it going, doing that will just flatten batteries and heat up cables.

     

    The charging system was modified to overcome problems a few years ago, it now has 2 alternators and a Battery management system, and the engine had new pistons and a through overhaul at Watford some years ago.

     

    Letting anybody loose on a vintage engine, even down to trying to start it is not recommended.

     

    It's a difficult times for engines and batteries, my 2LW started perfectly, after lockdown, but the batteries needed renewal.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    Mike

    Hi Mike,

    I was going to get an email put together for you and Jim, mainly to show the fabulous paint job Chris has done. But this has rather taken over this week!

     

    The engine was started fine on Saturday and ran for a couple of hours, but failed to start on Sunday morning. The whole job (from picking up at Cowroast to getting up to Stretton Stop, painting and this) happened while I was in Ethiopia so everything had to be explained from a distance and I know they had a good chat with Darren before leaving.

     

    I think they've started the engine many times with no problem so it's been a surprise for all of us a bit.

     

    I'm going to put a new battery in Friday and see whether it's as simple as that (I suspect not). There's been some good suggestions here, but I'm having to work from memory and photographs.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Mark

  9. 36 minutes ago, David Mack said:

    If your charging system is working 2 hours running should easily have put enough power back into the start battery for the next start.

     

    If the start battery was in a good enough state to start the engine when it hadn't run for some time, then there should have been no problem the following day. 

     

    It hadn't been run for more than a month I think. (I can't be sure - I work overseas)

    43 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

    I am wondering if an alternator diode has failed allowing a 24/7 discharge or someone left the ignition on all night.

     

    I agree 2 hours should have put the starting load back into the battery if the alternator is working properly.

     We will check the alternator.

  10. 1 hour ago, BEngo said:

    If the cables are heating up massively current  is going somewhere.  What size are the cables? The crimped lugs have 2 numbers on.  The first number is the cable size.  Should be 25 or preferably bigger. 

    Is the starter motor turning the engine over? 

    What is different between yesterday when it ran and now?

     

    The battery should be big enough.

     Make sure it is fully charged- voltage at about 14.4 V and current at 5 A or less and holding  steady for an hour. If the final current is higher than 5 A or the voltage will not get to 14.4  the battery has expired.

     

    Check all the cable connections are tight.

    Check the engine turns over freely by hand with the decompressors in.

    If if turns over on the starter is there white smoke from the exhaust?  Absence of smoke =lack of fuel.

    N

     

    1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:

    Well without volt drop readings I would not like to say what it is. It could well be a starter fault with one of the two brush pairs not making contact or a short circuit. If anything prevents a starter reaching its designed speed t will draw massive amounts of amps and that can cause volt drop on the normally correctly sized cables.

     

    Fault finding for volt drop here http://www.tb-training.co.uk/MarineE06.html#PRE-ENGAGE STARTERS

    but I would also like a current reading (amps).

     

    I am trying to get more information but I appreciate the input so far. I am 80 miles away stuck in a hotel and relying on third parties.

     

    There's a sense that this might be as simple as the battery expending so much effort yesterday that two hours running wasn't enough to put much charge back in the battery.

    The this morning, the first few failed cranks used up the last of the power.

     

    I was told the engine was turning over but not firing, with a feeling that the engine wasn't turning quite fast enough to fire.

     

    Then with the jump batteries, the long jump leads were too long and not thick enough and so there was heat build up.

     

    I'm going to get an engineer to have a look in the next few days and probably get a new battery in. I see that the Numax gets quite good reviews from boaters here.

     

    I will follow the fault-finding stuff on your website, Tony, thanks.

     

    3 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:

    Is there a stop control that has not been fully returned?

     

    No, we don't think so. I admit we are a bit puzzled by why there was so little juice in the battery this morning. And as I wasn't there (I'm holed up in a maximum-security quarantine hotel so I'm having to go by what others tell me ?). Maybe it's a combination of things, cold start, low battery.

     

    My other half has suggested hitting it with a spanner while swearing at it. "That's what you do with everything else".

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  11. I have got a problem with my Ruston & Hornsby 3VRH engine. It won't start.
    It's been repainted and was to be taken to a mooring today. I'm not there ands can't be there because I'm in a quarantine hotel in London. They ran the engine for a couple of hours yesterday and it ran fine: started fine, ran smoothly. Oil level is fine, coolant is fine.
    However, today, it just wouldn't start and after trying a few times, the battery was flat (measuring 12.02V)
    They got a forklift battery and hooked that up to the starter motor. The engine still didn't start.Tried a new car battery; same. It seems the cables heated up massively.
    I'm told it felt like the cables weren't large enough for the power being delivered.
     
    This engine has had a few starting issues in the past, requiring a blowtorch but I've never had a problem (although I've not owned it long). I suspect that it's more to do with the battery and cables. But my knowledge of boat electrics and batteries you could write on the back of a postage stamp and still have room for a Jamie Oliver recipe. 
     
    The battery is a Numax XV31MF 12v 105 Ah 925 MCA. I don't know how old it is but at least 2 years.
     
    Any thoughts among the wise old heads here?
  12. 2 hours ago, matty40s said:

    It'll be frozen solid by Tuesday.

    Thanks. I'm up in Scotland so wasn't aware of just how low the temps were going to fall by Monday. I see temps will drop to -2 through most of that. Would that freeze the canal in that first day?

     

    EDITED: Closure now expected until Thu 11/02/2021 16:30 after which hopefully the ice will have gone too. Then there's another stoppage at Leighton Buzzard starting 15/02/2021.

     

    3 hours ago, andy3196 said:

    Thanks. Wonder why they didn't update the information sheet that was sent out last night at 01.30am with this new date of 11th Feb? 

  13. Absolutely brilliant talk. What a really fantastic adventure. And I liked that it was done in a boat that wasn't bombproof: there were things that went wrong, engine arguably not big enough for the big rivers, all a bit amateur. 

     

    I've always wanted to do the route from Rotterdam to Kiev including the Pripyat River but I believe theres a blockage at Brest that prevents it now. T~hen on up the Desna river to Smolensk where there's a dam because of the nuclear power station. Just a dream.

  14. 8 minutes ago, BEngo said:

    Some ramblings, aimed generally rather than specifically at the OP:

     

    Owning an old engine has to be worked at.  It needs enthusiasm and understanding as well as a certain pride and, often, determination.  If that is not your thing then you will be better served by some Japanese engineering miracle that will go and go and go until it is knackered and is fit only for scrap.

     

    N

     

    Great advice!

     

  15. Although it's about sailing, rather than the canals or narrowboats, the "Sailing Uma" Vlog is extremely watchable. The Canadian/Haitian couple are engaging and the production is (now) very good. 

     

    The YouTube channel is here.

     

    While sharing most of the views here about "influencers" doing shit videos and wanting others to pay for their lifestyles, Sailing Uma, is one of the better ones out there.

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  16. 7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

    Not an RH engine but the principe of carrying parts.

     

    I carry as much as I can, I may not have the skills to fit it myself but for specialist (rare engine specifics) items if you have them then you don't need to wait (potentially) weeks for your mechanic to try and source them.

    I find this particularly useful when coastal cruising (and not only in this country) where parts may be either unavailable or totally unknown.

     

    Buy everything you can find and carry as much of it as is practicable (or keep it at home and have someone who can mail 'stuff' to you).

    On my Last NB I had a complete spare engine and gearbox in my workshop - if I ever needed a part Son could remove it and either jump into the car and bring it (nowhere on the canals is much more than a few hours away in the car) or send it 'overnight' courier.

     

    I think this is a good policy. The list that BEngo suggested - split into onboard and at home - seems good too.

    I have been thinking about getting a spare engine but I don't think there are many 3VRH's floating around these days.

    I've emailed Ray Hooley and hope to build a list of all the parts I need to source.

     

    Still wondering how many other narrowboats have a 3VRH or 3VRHM.

  17. 4 minutes ago, David Mack said:

    Depending on exactly what version of the 3VRH this is, it has a rated output of 37.5-49.5 hp (http://realdiesels.co.uk/rustondata.html). So very comparable with the sort of modern engines people have in narrowboats, although those of us with historic boats are quite happy with half that power pushing 70 feet (or a pair of 70 footers). But it is putting that out at a lower speed than a modern engine, and you probably have a larger more efficient prop. So yes, it may feel a bit over powered.

     

    Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that page. I *do* want to depower it somehow as I hardly seem to be able to get it off idle before I'm jet-skiing down the cut. I feel faster than Ben Ainslie's AC75. But then, who isn't?

  18. I bought Cypress a year and a half ago with a 3VRH engine which sounds great. Only trouble is I am not mechanically-minded. Everyone oohs and aahs over it but I admit I am nervous.

     

    Firstly, it feels overpowered for the 45' boat and as the boat swims very easily, it's a struggle keeping the boat slow. (There's a SCG gearbox)

    Does anyone else have a 3VRH on a narrowboat?

     

    Secondly, what spare parts do other R&H owners keep on the boat (or at home)? I'm aware that getting parts could well be tricky so I'd like to get a stock of some parts in. I'm aware of Ray Hooley's website (and the R&H Facebook page) but just wondering what other owners do.

     

    Thirdly, what tips and tricks with a 3VRH or with this type of R&H engine?

     

    Finally, are there engineers on the network who specialise in R&H engines?

  19. I'm intrigued by the home location painted on many boats. As a secret cartophile and geographer, I always find I'm looking at where boats originate.

     

    Now obviously, some boats really are based at the place painted on the side, but presumably many used to be based there but I also suspect some have never been anywhere near their "home". There used to be a narrowboat moored on the Hamble alongside the M27 at Bursledon and I did wonder if it's now cruising around somewhere with Bursledon Wharf painted on the side.

     

    But I'm interested to know what others think of these place-names painted on narrowboats. Does there need to be some connection with the place. My boat has Shebdon Wharf on the side and I think it's because the previous owner was from Shropshire. I'm tempted to keep it because I was born not too far away at Cosford.

     

    But what about the names of places that are not even on the canal network? I recall seeing boats with improbable home locations but wonder what the view is of sign-writing these off-network locations on to the boat? 

  20. Thought I'd add a pre-repaint photo of Cypress, another (I believe) of Ted Spencer's tugs. 45' of happiness. No picture windows, no 240V, inside has that semi-permanent Eau de gazoil fragrance, wind, rain and sun in your face. Thank you Ted! IMG_8060.JPG.682e3340636738e420ab20d44cb268d1.JPG

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  21. ?

    I realise the 'eating in pubs' bit might not be feasible but at this stage, I can't tell what is going to be feasible. The boat has the usual cooking facilities but preference would be to eat in pubs and Michelin-starred restaurants.

     

    As for all the covid restrictions, obviously I have no idea what the landscape will be like by then. It might not even be possible to go to the boat. We'll see.

     

    I have the option to have the boat moved for me but it's an interesting trip so I'd far rather do it myself. And these days I'm too lazy/tired to single all those broad locks.

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