stagedamager
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Chiswick?
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Roger fullers yard in Stone.
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I believe there exists plans in the national waterways archive for a wide royalty class boat which was never built. I've never seen them and this is only through conversations so it might all be total rubbish!!
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15 hours ago, Johnny123 said:
Has anybody used a scabbler to remove paint from the hull? Is this possible or only sand blastering ect?
We just did at Langley Mill for a 3 year old 2 packed boat which hadn't been surface prepped and was still covered in millscale.
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25 minutes ago, David Mack said:
Any reason why you can't use a covered dry dock, but just not drain it?
Precisely!
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Mills dockyard or Trevethicks?
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The biggest issue at a lot of single locks, especially going up hill, is a lot of lock tail bridges don't have towpaths through them, so involves bow hauling the butty back, which can be ok, until you need to swing the line under said bridge, and fight any weir streams. CRT in their infinite wisdom have also redesigned most of the split bridges as the original engineers got it wrong and left a gap, and the modern office bods deem that too dangerous, so bang goes the gaps for bowhauling lines.
It is entirely do able, but in certain circumstances it is tricky to achieve, and the age old argument of wasting water whilst stood next to a bywash with a good few inches flowing over is always the first line of reasoning as to why it shouldn't happen. If it is necessary and achievable i always allow the other boater through, but at times it can be safer to allow the pair through together.
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towing an unladen butty on cross straps is fine, i echo all the above don't thrash it assuming you won't have enough power, you will be fine, but be mindful of having enough speed so the butty steerer has steerage. I find the biggest issue these days is people cruising too slowly so you're constantly in and out of tickover and losing steerage on the butty and therefore starts to throw the motor round. most of the time they won't let you past either!!
When working Meteor with a 55ft tug, mum and dad attached an eye with a shckle on the butty gunwhales to breast up with, and that worked really well. Just do it, you won't regret it!!!
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And in true FCC style, no mention of the work done by the Erewash Canal Preservation and Development Association who seem to have done the majority of the work, and provided the plant machinery. The works that WRG were involved with over the mentioned weekend in my opinion were dangerous, no demarcation for the general public who were able to walk into the middle of a construction site with plant machinery moving about, which was not WRGs responsibilty but FCC. It all seems a bit Heath Robinson to me. The Langley Mill rally was the ideal opportunity to push their restoration and apart from a few guided tours, if you weren't on one of those, whilst you were able to visit the restoration site, it was just piece of cleared waste ground with no information present as to what was what until the final afternoon when an A3 plan was attached to a gate.
Can't see CRT adopting this sadly moving forward.
Kind regards
Dan
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7 minutes ago, Liam said:
The AS3 will be staying! Myself and @Kez have started to get quite fond of it 😊
Told you you would...... 🤣
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Not wholly surprised. The maintenance on the moorings was inadequate at best when we were there.
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I've got a marine....
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Aah I misunderstood!
I've got a few AS3s if you're genuinely looking.....
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Nowt wrong with an AS. Much nicer than a common Lister....... 🤣
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44 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:
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(plus CYPRUS, if owner will sell separately from its butty).
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I think the pair have been split if recent Facebook posts are correct.
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I've got a lovely HA3 with a Blackstone Box we are looking to sell in the not too distant future...........
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5 hours ago, Bee said:
That is going to be beautiful.
Thanks Bee, that is very much the plan, but you can't rush these things, and today is far too hot to even think about doing any work!
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We had a great walk round yesterday and spoke to a lot of people but there is never enough time to chat to all! And, we only managed 1 picture sadly. It was great to see so many butties there this year, and many parading.
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A few weeks on, we've managed to get some more planks on, which has thrown up a couple of curveballs which we thought might happen, mainly due to knee shapes. All we'll do is let some fillets in behind the knees to the planks and tweak the drawing should we build another one......
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1 hour ago, DShK said:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CanalMarketPlace/permalink/3562917567321706/
1906 Wooden Butty "Clara" for sale - £25K.
I bet owning a wooden boat is a lot of work, it'd be cool to see the cabin chopped off and see this restored to pair with a working boat.
Clara is a unique boat being the only surviving Shroppie fly boat, and as nice as it would be seeing her as a working par again, so much of her history is as a cabinned boat and i feel it is important to retain that rather than remove. So many boats are returned to "original", whatever that may be, and large chunks of boat history is lost. Having said that, any new potential owner is entitled to do as they wish with her, and, subject to the works completed, and whatever work needs to be done, she could be a good price. Wooden boat ownership is absolutely fine, as long as maintenance is kept on top of.
Kind regards
Dan
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19 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:
But its easier to make a box with a triangle bit on each end
But its easier to make a box with a triangle bit on each end For those that do Facebook you may find Dan's little project interesting (4) Dan Cauldwell - Slow and steady...... losing the plank wobbles one... | Facebook
Ooh thanks for the link!
Here's some photos showing the latest progress, this is all about how a boat swims through the water. Anderton kept to the original design to the end of their operations, and the boats were renowned for how cleanly they swam.
Edit to add linky....
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The Cheshire locks have the paddle holes further back I believe. The knobstick boats were build with massive deck beams and strong fore end knees to take the shock of the surge of water slamming the boats into the cill.
Kind regards
Dan
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There's a nice Les Allen about to he listed at New and Used. Slightly shorter but fits most of your criteria
NB Thornbury.
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1 hour ago, Tam & Di said:
There was quite a bit of helpful comment plus the usual jokey stuff - about Noah's Ark in this case. Then stagedamagerer posted the above which was very to the point. Sadly this was also the last time the OP was on-line looking at the thread, so I guess either he did not see it or decided not to bother - a pity either way, but it does seem to happen a lot, and does influence the sort of replies the next enquiry of a similar nature receives.
Tam
I was trying to make a point that if they had been offered a plywood cruiser then someone specialising in oak planked hulls wouldn't necessarily be able to offer the best advice etc..... and no offence was meant.
Think I might be in trouble.
in New to Boating?
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We're not all that bad, it's just everyone gets tarred with the same brush sadly due to these very kind of instances.