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  1. I would say have a good look at the builders and styles of boats they build, sadly these days, most boats are built to maximise internal space, and therefore tumblehome is decreased, and more importantly swim and bow lengths are drastically shortened and as a result boats won't swim well, props can't get enough water, and so they can't perform as well when cruising. There are lovely wide beams out there, more of a Dutch barge style than wide beam narrowboat, which would give the space you need whilst still being responsive at the controls. 

    Good luck with your search, you won't regret it!


    Kind regards



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  2. 1 minute ago, agg221 said:

    Thanks Dan, I take it she was up with you fairly recently, after the rebuild? The owner mentioned that he had been up the Erewash. Very useful to know that there is a Kelvin expert available - they are lovely engines but I have spent more time on the phone over the past couple of weeks satisfying myself that there is enough expertise and are enough parts squirrelled away in stashes around the country to keep it going if needed than on any other aspect of the purchase!



    Give us a shout if you need anything, my brother has a few Kelvin spares, including a few J bits I think, and has worked on that engine. She moored with us once the cabin was completed until May this year.

  3. 3 hours ago, agg221 said:

    Re, Oates as listed above. Well our offer has been accepted so subject to anything untoward happening it will shortly be ours. To respond to a couple of the comments made. Firstly, it is a lot less tender than we had feared. It does move if people move around inside it, but not alarmingly and it doesn't wobble so much as reposition to where the weight is distributed. I suspect this is because most of the time when you are inside, your weight actually bears low down on the floor so doesn't induce much turning moment. It certainly leans less than a hireboat after a week with a full toilet tank in need of a pumpout!


    Secondly on the hook, yes that is original and in the correct place, although the block has been renewed at some point (to the original design). Although just buying this one, I am not new to iceboats (just haven't been very visible for the past ~20yrs). I have photos of Oates pre-conversion which show the hook in exactly the same position. Some of the BCN boats had a T-stud but most had the hook on the bow and two pairs of the rings on posts on the sides. I suspect it was because you could get a more positive fix for multiple ropes on the ring than a stud.



    Congratulations on your imminent purchase. She is a lovely boat, she moored with us for a while at Langley Mill, if you need any help with the Kelvin, give us a shout, we have a Kelvin expert on site!

    Best of luck!



  4. On 29/08/2021 at 20:49, dmr said:


     Although Bickerstaff claim to have designed the perfect boat maybe now the Foxes have a bit of experience they fancy something with a tug deck, an engine room with a big old engine, a trad stern, solid brass portholes, and no tents on either end. I might even start watching their vblog thingies 😀


    Ha ha, you never know, they'd probably quite like a tug style, go off on a tangent and get something totally different from their current one...this should do it!!!



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  5. 1 hour ago, johnnywalker said:
    Your Armstrong Siddeley 3 cylinder engine (recently removed from Tug Sultan) was rescued from a sunken ‘barge’ called Spyder in Yorkshire, in around 1978. Not sure exactly what kind of boat she was - absolutely cavernous compared to a narrowboat. Nor can I remember exactly where. What I do remember, location wise, was a huge pump out barge that came up daily to collect sewage waste from a few hundred yards away, just up the river. So probably one of the members of this forum will be able to place that?
    I bought the barge from BWB for £10 on the understanding that we would remove her from where she was and scrap the hull. Mark, a friend and I were trying to pump her out for a couple of days to refloat her and get access to the engine, which was totally under water. We couldn’t even see what type of engine it was. Luckily it was completely submerged and under an oil slick, so it wasn’t corroded. All we had was a little ex-GPO petrol pump. The guys on the waste barge, seeing our continuing efforts, very kindly came alongside and connected their pumps and she popped up like a cork. Two days later, to their great surprise, we had dried out the engine, oiled it, connected a battery and we motored past them going upstream, towards the scrap yard which was beside the river, a little further up. They don’t make ‘em like they used to!
    The scrap yard lifted the engine out for us and we took it back to Birmingham, where Mark rebuilt it. Not very well, I’m afraid. Because the subsequent owner had to have it sorted shortly afterwards. She was always a bit smoky.


    An amazing bit of history. Thank you for taking the time to share.

  6. 5 hours ago, johnnywalker said:

    I know where the AS came from - I'd be very interested to know where it is now?


    Also, this is the Freeth Street yard... and Sultan being launched



    The AS3 is in my collection at Langley Mill.


    Kind regards



  7. 9 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:

    May I hijack this thread for a mo? 

    I have misplaced one of the nuts that go on studs to tighten the stern gland. Are these studs standard size. I think they may be M8. Am I likely to be correct?

    Depending on supplier of the stuffing box, I normally see m10 or m12, before getting into vintage ones!

  8. 1 hour ago, JoeSlow said:

    Update on Sirius: Found


    Thanks to you all for helping me trace Sirius. I've just been on the phone to Jem Bates and yes, Arcturus and Sirius are both there so I am going to be able to go and visit my first home. I am really chuffed.

    My question was why are these boats 'famous'? well they were prototypes of the Star class in 1934 and Jem has told me they are the last surviving original pair of wooden boats. He is holding onto them with an eye to renovation when possible. I will be providing him with photos and a little more info I have from the 70's to add to the boats provenance and known history - mainly pictures with me in :)

    Thanks again


    The ironwork for Avon is there as well.

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  9. 54 minutes ago, matty40s said:

    It really doesnt have a place in the Central London high street any more, having supplied lines to Arctic explorers was nice business while it lasted but the options for retail choice are slightly larger now than they were in those glorious olden days.

    It's not ideally sited for marine, however, due to the overlap with rope and rigging, Beales thrived within the theatre industry, and, at the heart of the west end has been a very handy go to chandlers and ironmongers when shows are being installed and you need that "something" at short notice.

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