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2 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Something else to consider. With most moorings, there is no security of tenure. You can be booted off at a moments notice. For living, that is not much of a problem, you just CC till you can get a new mooring. With it being your business premises too, it is severe disruption to both you, your clients and potentially your income. How will the extra costs compare with a small office on land with a more stable contract?
Related to this. You'll be in a small space, day in, day out on a boat, with no difference between your work and home environment. A lot of people found this stressful when working from home during lockdown. I am guessing that you already have methods for coping with emotionally fraught client issues and getting space between them and the rest of your life. Again, having an office for your work on land could give you better separation between work and home.
Jen
Thanks Jen, I don’t live aboard, so the work/life separation won’t be a problem. When we leave the marina later in the year which is currently quite a distance from where we live, I hope to sustain leaving the boat canalside nearby under the crt rules of moving around, at least for a while so I can get a feel for how it will work and until I can find a location that is just right (marina/permanent mooring).
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11 minutes ago, Slow and Steady said:
Actually, it can be a PITA for other moorers for example young man goes nutty and threatens carers with knife - what do the carers do? They follow their policy and high tail it to the car park leaving said youth armed and on the boat / jetty until the police arrive with no warning to the rest of us. Yeah, thanks for that!
But to be fair they have kids that really like it and visibly change from hoody encrusted feet starers to quite friendly and relaxed - others are more stubborn and don't. I guess it's always worth a try.
Quick google, their website seems to be a mess.
http://www.exceptional-care.co.uk/mobile-services/shrewsbury/
Thank you - I’ll have a look at this. I guess there would need to be some form of robust risk assessment beforehand on a individual case, to determine who is suitable for said therapy.
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11 minutes ago, Slow and Steady said:
This is definitely doable on the right marina. We have a widebeam "care boat" on the marina here and I think a narrowboat too. They take teenagers with problems at home/their care homes and give them a week or two in a different environment for which no doubt the local authority forks out - must cost a fortune. I'm guessing they pay A LOT more for their moorings. Money talks.
I’m interesting to hear more about this if you have details? That is so interesting that this service is offered. It sounds amazing
22 minutes ago, LadyG said:It does not seem practical, assuming you live near London, would there be a land based group practice you could join?
Hi. I’m in the north west, I’m also considering outdoor therapy, maybe this will overtake the idea of “boat therapy”.
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I agree with you! I think the idea of cc’ing and providing counselling (yes could be long term) is getting further and further away from my romanticised idea. There is such a shortage of spaces on marina’s these days and of course then overcoming the agreement of accepting people onto the boat for insurance purposes is another thing.
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4 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
I suspect that anyone can call themselves a councilor so unless they proffer a professional qualification there may well be no professional body involved. I am not suggesting this is the case here, but it might apply to the the other unknown boater offering the service.
If the LadyG is intending to CC has the need for regular supervision or whatever it is called been considered when moving around?
This is a good point. I am a fully qualified therapist, currently practicing under an ethical body, with regular supervision, which is at the moment provided online. And yes, unfortunately there are people out there calling themselves a counsellor without any professional training which, which is up to them, but certainly not ethical. This is the problem with the profession being unregulated.
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2 minutes ago, blackrose said:
Surely you would operate from your mooring and your clients would find you at your mooring? As Roland says, if you're CCing forget it, you might persuade one or two people willing to visit but it wouldn't be a viable business. I've known people ignoring the rules and taking massage clients on their boats while CCing but nobody was insured and if someone tripped over and smashed their head while climbing on or off the boat they'd be in the sh*t.
I don't know how this woman is doing it unless she also has a mooring and that makes a difference?
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Very interesting! And I agree with above points, the most practical thing would be to operate from a mooring, in terms of insurance and liability. All good things for me to think about as was actually wanting to get away from the marina lifestyle as I feel like a bird with its wings clipped 😂
54 minutes ago, Laurie Booth said:Sounds like an excellent idea.
Thank you!
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Thanks guys. I think the main thing I need to think about where I may operate. Ideally this would be canalside, but there are many things to consider, like the above, how clients will find me etc. it is just a thought at this stage and hope that I can turn my passion into reality as I know first hand the benefits of being on/near water.
2 minutes ago, roland elsdon said:Depends in what form of counselling you are qualified.
If you are genuinely continuous cruising forget it. You cant not be there if you engage in any kind of contract to provide services.
Cant see any professional body finding it acceptable.
Surely it’s worth me considering? I haven’t approached my ethical body, but that is a good point, maybe one of the first steps I should take. I have seen at least one other person offering counselling from their boat, of course I don’t know if they are insured, if it’s been ok with a professional body and how they navigate gaining clients. Maybe it’s a niche worth exploring as I know first hand how calming the water can be.
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Hi all, this is the first step into doing my homework and since I have had the most amazing support here in the past, I’d thought it might be a good place to start. I’m a qualified counsellor and am tempted to offer therapy from my narrowboat in the future, but I can’t think of all the obstacles that I may come across? I’ve thought about insurance, roving traders license and where I will moor. I get so much joy and peace from being on the water and wonder whether I can make this work. I’m open to thoughts and suggestions. Happy day to you all.
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27 minutes ago, haggis said:
Just a thought, but would stepping off the boat and walking along the towpath for a while a few times a day help? In this way perhaps your body won't get so used to the boat movement and will hopefully not need a lot of readjusting when you go home. Even walking to the shops or the pub might help. Anything to mix the boat and land based activities
haggis
Yes, I will try this. We virtually spent a week on the boat with very little off the boat time, which was nice, but not doing me any favours x
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10 minutes ago, Opener said:
Seriously, can extent of 'boat head' have something to do with ballasting of das boot? When I am at the tiller, I can tell when crew is stationary and when a coffee is making its way to me. If you/the boat is more heavily ballasted there should be less rocking motion and maybe less lasting effect when back on land.
That’s a good thought! This is something we will look into once back to home mooring it’s going in for blacking in a few weeks, so will enquire about the ballast whilst it’s out of water! It’s day two now and I’m still suffering. Admittedly not as bad while I’m walking around, but as soon as I sit down, or stand still it’s off again.
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1 hour ago, IanD said:
It often happens to me if we've been on a boat for more than a week, but usually goes away within a day or so. It's because your inner ear/brain has learned to interpret gentle side-to-side rocking as the world being stationary and tuned it out; when the movement stops on land (in my case, often when sitting in a pub in the evening...) your brain then thinks you're rocking the other way. Anything which involves a lot of movement like walking or running may help to reset your system and make the problem go away.
Thanks. Planning a run after work. Got to be worth a go or my narrowboating days could be over very quickly 😞
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20 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:
Its because you are new boating and your head needs to adjust. When we used to spend a long time at sea, once several weeks in the North Atlantic/arctic for instance when returning ashore on the way to a pub we used to walk a little funny but it very quickly wore off. If you live on a boat, even something as tiny as a narrowboat at first the same thing happens but if you do it for many years you will never be effected and go from boat to land and vice versa without change.
I hope so. Still feeling a little wobbly this morning, but hoping it wears off after a day at work
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6 minutes ago, Tony1 said:
I will apologise LadyR for the irreverence of my tone in replying earlier, and in appearing to suggest that a certain cure for having 'land legs' was to cycle to the nearest off-licence.
But my silliness aside, people are affected by this issue to varying degrees, and it would appear that you are perhaps a bit more affected than most.
I think there is a germ of sense in my own solution- which is to get on land and stomp about a fair bit (or cycle, in my case).
The same adaptability that caused your senses to become accustomed to the boat movement in the first place will surely work in your favour, by getting you reacquainted with solid ground.
In my case I have no option- I typically have to travel a few miles in order to obtain supplies, and that demolishes any vestiges of land legs that I might have.
But I would imagine the fastest way for your body to re-adapt to solid ground is to spend time walking upon it- and during this time, to not spend time dwelling on the land legs issue, but rather to just to enjoy the local surroundings.
As I'm on the Llangollen, with lots of enthusiastic and very speedy boaters passing all day long, I have developed a habit of tying up the boat more securely than a man awaiting a hurricane, and I think reducing the boat's movement whilst moored might also be a factor in reducing the land legs issue to just an amusing and momentary novelty.
No need to apologise, it might me helpful in this case for me to also “jog” to the nearest off license
we’re returning to the boat at the weekend to continue our journey, but this disturbance is quietly putting me off. I didn’t have much time off the boat, only to fill up the water & diesel tanks, to which I thought the office where I paid was floating on water to my amusement at the time, I thought it would be short lived and a “one off” and saw the funny side, till I’ve come back to reality and it’s ugly head has followed me. Hoping for some relief after a good sleep.
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23 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:
The simple reason for that is that for some reason its not a phenomenon that affects everybody. Or after a while they develop an 'immunity' to it if spending a lot of time aboard, which you obviously do.
As you have discovered.
For us (my wife confirmed she remembers feeling it too) it was a combination of narrow canals, wide canals and rivers).
I dont think that makes a massive difference though, the issue is the movement of the boat not what it's floating on.
HTH.
Thanks. Yeah, I think it’s the simple motion, I think it must affect everyone differently no matter how subtle. Strange phenomena isn’t it, laying down and sitting still makes it worse. Hoping for a better day tomorrow.
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33 minutes ago, Tony1 said:
I did a week aboard a tall ship in moderately blustery weather many years ago, and when we first stepped back ashore it was a totally bizarre feeling to walk on solid ground, that didn't move. It took a few hours to adjust. But over time, you definitely do adjust, just as you adjusted to being aboard in the first place.
I have noticed a much less extreme version of this syndrome recently- it happens if I've not stepped ashore (for any significant time) over a period of days.
But it never persists for very long.
I find that a ten mile round trip- cycling to the nearest shop- is a great cure.
Typically I bump along the towpath for half a mile or so, then do another mile or two down rutted, potholed and often muddy lanes, and finally a mile or two more into civilisation- usually, I must admit, to procure a beer ration- and generally speaking, by the time I arrive at the shop or supermarket du jour, my body and senses are so grateful to just not be cycling any more, and to be walking upon smooth concrete (and more importantly within easy reach of liquid groceries), that the sensitive gyroscopic balance systems within my inner ear, that might otherwise have taken issue with me stepping ashore, make no fuss at all.
Thank you very much for your reply. I must admit I’ve struggled today being unsteady on my feet hence not had the motivation to get out, but if it still persists tomorrow, I will have a good few mile walk/jog and see if that makes the difference. All the best.
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4 minutes ago, Bacchus said:
We use to call it "bobbing" or boat-rock. Something to do with the ears apparently, but, as others have said, it does pass fairly quickly, and - importantly - it tends to dissipate the more time you spend boating; hardly ever happens to me nowadays (although I shan't say never...)
The other weird thing I experience after time afloat is driving. However hard I try, I don't seem to be able to drift the car towards the kerb... and as for putting it into reverse to stop -- shall we just say there's no prop-walk (c:
Thanks for your reply. It’s very interesting that it does get less the more time you spend afloat, this is very positive news. It’s still all new to me but this is one thing that I didn’t expect, so has taken me by surprise. It seems like a common thing to happen, so gives me comfort.
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8 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:
And 'narrowboat twist' where you walk with one shoulder slightly forward to squeeze down the corridor.
Omg I already have this lol.
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4 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:
Yes, we used to get this on returning home.
It does wear off.
That’s good to hear!
3 minutes ago, Rob-M said:I find this happens after a couple of weeks on the boat, always feels like the office is swaying. Tends to only last a few days.
Yes, it’s so strange. I went to do a food shop this afternoon and it felt like the supermarket was on water. Hoping to wake up tomorrow and it’s eased.
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3 minutes ago, robtheplod said:
I get this for a day after being on the boat... it soon subsides!
I hope it subsides for me too. I guess only time will tell 🙂
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Hi all,
so we’ve just come home after our first week on our new nb. I adjusted really well to being on the water, however, now I am home, every time I sit or lie down, I feel like I’m swaying & bobbing - not a nice feeling. I’m really hoping it subsides as this might be the breaking of my new found love of the water. Anyone else suffer? I’ve read horror stories of people having it permanently, but quickly stopped reading
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36 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
This is the sort of thing that Tony is describing. The top switch is used on my boat to turn off the solar panels. A standard mains pattress blanking plate, here is a brass finish one, which has a proper 12V DC switch fitted. Toggle switches are easier to fit as it just needs a round hole drilled in the plate. A rocker switch generally needs a rectangular hole, which is more time consuming to make (there are exceptions). Make sure, for a shower pump, the switch is rated for at least 5A at 12VDC. Switching high current low voltage DC actually needs specially designed switches to last a long time. You can get away for years with using a mains switch, but ultimately, it will burn out the contacts. Someone will reply shortly to say that they have run a whale gulper for 127 years with a mains switch and it is still fine. 😃
Not sure if I should say this, or not, but pissing in a boat shower will mean it ends up in the canal when the pump works. 😃
Naughty naughty 🤣
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9 hours ago, LadyR said:
Yay- so can I now I know it’s working, I probably wouldn’t have slept 🤪
The water that I couldn’t pump out was what went into the shower tray (on my boat) before I managed to get in the shower because the pump didn’t want to work, so I pissed about for 2 hours trying to figure it out, which is now working and luckily I’ve had a “boat shower” now. I hope that helps to clear up the confusion 😃
Not the best photo of the switch. It seems to be working again this morning. It’s definitely something I will take a look at when I get the boat home.
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5 minutes ago, booke23 said:
Excellent news, glad you got it sorted. Your mug and saucepan can rest easy!
Yay- so can I now I know it’s working, I probably wouldn’t have slept 🤪
Just now, Alan de Enfield said:So the water that would not pump out was at home, or was that 'todays shower' that you are still 'desperate for' ?
I'm a bit confused.
The water that I couldn’t pump out was what went into the shower tray (on my boat) before I managed to get in the shower because the pump didn’t want to work, so I pissed about for 2 hours trying to figure it out, which is now working and luckily I’ve had a “boat shower” now. I hope that helps to clear up the confusion 😃
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Just now, Alan de Enfield said:
Pleased that you got it pumping out.
You had a shower yesterday after you picked the boat up, and you are now desperate to have a shower today, I think that a life of boating may come as a shock to you, when you realise that you don't have an endless supply of water, and wll have to learn to have a 'boat shower' (get wet, turn off the shower, get soaped up, turn on the shower and rinse, turn off the shower). You probably will only have the water running for 2 minutes, there should not be much to have to pump-out.
No I didn’t have a shower when I picked the boat up yesterday, I had one at home before I left the house 🤗
Therapy on My narrowboat
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Thank you very much! I’m certainly going to explore all avenues before “giving up”. I do like a challenge. I can but try and if the answer is no at the end of it, then I will be content. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.