Muddy Waters
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I have a pair of Selwyn's bronze windlasses (with the arrows) which I bought new for around £8.50 for the last one which would have been in the very early 1980s.
I know that there have been lots of threads around the cost etc of windlasses going back years but after seeing one of Selwyn's windlasses hanging up in a shop and was told it was from the 1950s whereas I thought they were more likely from the late '70s.
My question is when are they from?
Also when were the Neals made and for that matter the Cookes?
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Mr Lewis,
What was the issue with the Fulbourne?
Too long or/and over 7' wide?
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10 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
It depends where you are starting from.
The South, well south of t' North.
Canals north of the T&M, if that helps.
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How far North can I get with a 72' boat?
What canals can I not boat?
Thank you in advance.
M xx
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I did and didn't hence here, result. Thank you.
My wife had a go too and she didn't find it either.
Not often that Google San lets me down.
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Does any one know what Thetford's telephone is?
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or this version from around 1960/61.
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They did number 3.
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Cheers for that, I always forget about the Nicholsons. I've only ever used the BWB guides and only just started using the Pearson guides.
But I have no idea where in Hertford the pictures are from.
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Are there any, modern, guides to the Lee and Stort. The only guide I have is from 1965 and my memory is from boating there in the mid 70s - boat was based there by the ice cream "factory".
I would like to boat to the end of the canal in Hartford by the pub if that is still possible.
Cheers in advance,
Muddy
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Indeed.
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Or just errors.
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Or a Harvey trap as I was told these "errors" are called and are there to deter or detect copying.
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On 15/06/2021 at 18:20, sparrowcycles said:
I'm wondering what Prince may have looked like at the time of nationalisation.
At the time of nationalisation would not Prince be in the livery of the GUC maintenance fleet?
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Oil on Canvas - well that was confusing as I thought it was an album by Japan. I did wonder what a thread about a band from the 70s/80s was doing here. Hay Ho.
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So would I.
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16 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
In the days before Elsan disposal points, pump out machines and laws on industrial effluent dumping, people didn't need any more warning not to fall in the cut!
Quite right.
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Yes, agree but the motors were devoid of any swags just a modest stripe. And as you all so say long before H & S got involved.
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14 hours ago, BWM said:
It may have been a form of warning for the turning propeller below, which wasn't present on a butty or horse boat.
Now that is the best idea yet - I could go for that.
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9 minutes ago, Derek R. said:
I refer to the rams head on a butty
Oops, silly me.
Any way - the point I was trying to make, poorly as it goes, is that counter bands in a tunnel are not really that visible.
I just think they look good on the back of a motor - I like mine any how.
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10 hours ago, Derek R. said:
a) If you had a steamer in front of you - you would probably be in the process of being towed by it, so you wouldn't be catching it up
The earliest pictures of boats with counter bands were of the FMC steamers. These boats often boated fly and indeed if they were towing a train of boats you would not be able to see the bands. Lot of people call these bands tunnel bands and believe they are there as a safety feature in tunnels and some call them navigation bands.
Your point about electric lights in the back cabin - FMC use paraffin to the end and if you are towing a butty you might not see much from the cabin lights.
And as Roland said You can’t see someone’s counter bands in the tunnels they are too low . If the boat was empty the deck board and cratch would still be up.
In close to 60 tears of boating I don't thing I have ever seen a wholly white rams head on a motor.
As too fetid dingo's kidneys, first it is a Douglas N Adams quote and better than saying a load of old bollocks.
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1 hour ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Especially since a butty being towed would hide the motor boat from view from behind anyway.
Indeed.
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I've been reading about these , counter bands, on the friendly narrowboat do dah on that FB thing and I thought what a load of fetid dingo's kidneys. As for making your self more visible in tunnels really. Steamers had counter bands and I would have thought that, 1) all the smoke would be a clue that there might be a boat ahead of me and 2) I would be unable to see the boat ahead of me because of all the smoke etc. 3) and as diesels motors took over from 'orse boats and steamers they often boated with a butty so you still would not be able to see the counter bands. 4) I don't think that the old paraffin lamps would be able to shed more than a modest glow lighting up the tunnel walls either side of your stem so it seems unlikely that they pick up the counter bands of a boat in front unless you were right up to their tipcat.
And lastly I would have to be so close to the boat in front of me in a tunnel to see the counter bands that I would be able to see the boat anyway.
If they were really there as some sort of safety feature why did not the 'orse boats/butty boats have bright flashes on their arses.
Just asking that's all.
Selwyn Jordan windlesses
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Thanks Dave.