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  1. Hello all, thanks for the suggestions! Great stuff! In review. 🤓 Non return valves after each pump; not recommended by many, unless built into pump such as ‘Little Whale’ Supersub Pumps Pumps in circuit; second pump rerouted to pump out into first pumps reservoir which is then pumped out to waste outlet. Pump 1 & 2 pump out into a bucket containing a third pump going straight to the waste outlet. Advised to fit higher than the outlet, acting like a hopper tank, draining out by gravity. Cut/refit skin fitting for pump 2 on the opposing side. Expand the current skin fitting so there is room for pump two’s pipe alongside one’s original. YES to mostly clean water coming in and not a lot of water in the bilge in the first place. It’s not my boat so working to other's preference, which may need reviewing and adapting to, after all these options are mulled over. I think I'm going to suggest a second skin fitting, being added to accommodate pump two as it’s own separate installation. It seems the most pragmatic and functional - in the long run. Yet I do love the circuit option as a quick pragmatic fix for now. Hypothetically and irrespective of the current problematic T situations, would a thinner pipe truly make no difference to how much fluid can travel up a pipe? - given that there would be less water being pumped and thus give the pump more power/capacity, which presumably would allow for a higher quantity of fluid to be pushed up. 🤔
  2. Thanks Tracy, yes I was thinking of something like that, like a washing machine waste. Will give it a go but don't want to isolate each pump - so still going to puzzle this; as would like to try to have both pumps on auto, can run at the same time or singly and out of the same waste outlet.
  3. Thanks for all the responces! No non-return valves fitted - Did not know they were available for such waste pipes, could be good. Will research, but any one used before/know where/name? Both pumps operate/are planned to be on auto setting at the same time all the time. One pump when operating, running down to the other pump - this is my worry hence, the adjustment of T suggestion on drawing. Each pump to have its own skin fitting outlet suggestion - too invasive, don't want to cut another hole. Could it be there is not enough water ? YES, but want to keep it relatively shallow and the amount of water needed to get the rise is too much. Disconnect one of the pumps from the T and connect it directly to the skin fitting - does that work. - YES this works. Why 2 pumps - Requested and the two sides are largely seperated, and fill at different rates, hence pump installed for each side. Seems like there's many ways to go about this, any thoughts on the skinnier pipe to increase suction?
  4. Hello everyone, Wishing you well. Got a question with pictures! I installed 2x bilge pumps on either side of an engine bay, connected to a T JUNCTION going to the waste OUT. 25mm internal diameter on pipe, classic transparent PVC Flex reinforced, matching the old original waste pipe size. All fittings snug with jubilee clips. Original single pump worked OK. Yet now both pumps can't get the waste water up to the top of the pipe, never mind out the waste. What would anyone recommend? Thinking - simply, get narrower pipe? (Available in 5mm interior diameter - 51mm so can defo get thinnner). Also thinking when it can draw to the top, the T-JUNTION likely won't work as one pipe may drain to the other descent to other pump at the T and miss the outlet, so may switch position of TJUNCTION before OUT. SEE PIC for Ref. Thanks in advance one and all!
  5. Hey there Canal World, Wishing everyone a happy and safe Christmas. In the off chance some somebody knows here - I'm trying to identify the inlet (filter) attached to this Jabsco par-max 1.9 water pump. It's not done yet, but I'm looking to find and purchase a spare, as soon as identify the brand name and model. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
  6. We just moored up the other night in the dark, North of Nantwich just before the Llangollen Junction. Not in a sign posted mooring site ... thus we met the shelf! Did a night with nothing special and we didn’t sink, did some reading as Storm Francis came in. (40+ mph gusts.) The shelf is pretty obvious when you moor in the area (off of the marked mooring areas) as an underwater ledge that prevents you mooring snug against the towpath side. It bangs and grates your boat with the wind and wakes. Apparently the actual canal is shallow on the towpath side in these parts anyway, we have apretty standard liverpool boat draught.. In RECAP of the previous posts found here, the other entry I found on canalworld about the shelf and a quick fix we found worked, read on: - Most folks, get prepped pre-Shropshire canal visit and get wheelbarrow wheels or go-kart wheels, hung from the boat, like fenders, but floating on the surface sideways, allowing the boat to clear the sill and bump against the nice soft rubber of the wheels instead. - Some folks don't do anything about the shelf, moor up and weather the knocking sound in the night. I've seen a bunch of boats that haven't done anything special. - I read an entry where on describing taking boats out and looking at the hull post shelf times and they noted it can damage the boat, at the least the blacking, worst it'll take a go at the metal. Which makes sense to me given your boats side is resting against largely old, uneven concrete mass, with the repetitive wind or wakes washing you up against it. Hence the horrible sounds. Also someone said they were unlucky and the shelf damaged their propeller. Given this we erred on the side of caution - especially with the storm, so we went for a QUICK FIX: See the pictures, but what we've gone for is taking some pieces of wood, little planks essentially, the slats from a single bed and wedging them into the bottom of the canal between the boat and the ledge. We used 3x for the bow, stern and middle, where you keep the fenders and pushed them into the canal bottom by hand then with sledge hammer to fix them at a 45 ish degree angle and then pulled the boat onto them, instead of the ledge. The idea came from someone recommending using their poles to do this, ours were too big or a bad fit. Essentially you could use any wood or similar thing to wedge between you and the ledge. Old fence posts, windblow branches, sheets of wood etc.. IT WORKED ! I suspect this won’t work everywhere but it did manage to stop us banging, clanging and scraping even with the storm. Best of luck.
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