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  1. Battery Charging primer

    in Boat Building & Maintenance

    Posted · Edited by AWETHEAYET
    spiel cheek

    12 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

    Depends upon exactly what battery monitor but in general it will be fine if you ignore any reading that takes account of how many amp hours the monitor thinks has gone INTO the battery. Those scales are likely to tell larger and larger lies over time and say the batteries are fully charged when they are not. Those scales include % charges, Ah or time left and so on.You can rely upon the Volts, Amps and amp hours used to be accurate so:

     

    Charge at least once a week until the charging current is around 1 to 2% of battery capacity so in your case around 7 to 8 amps and has stopped falling for half an hour or so.

     

    Use rested voltage with no load running to infer state of charge/when its vital to recharge.

     

    After fully charging the batteries zero the Ah out reading and wait until the next day. Read the Ah out and the inferred state of charge from the rested voltage and use those to estimate the present battery capacity (it won't be 360Ah). Then fully charge the batteries and recalibrate the meter, if not done before set the tail current back from the factory set 4% or so to 1% and input the new capacity. Then as long as you fully charge the batteries once a week and keep the capacity updated those lying scales will not be far out.

     

    Edited to add:

     

    PS the first paragraph includes when the device phones your wife if its linked to the battery monitor, unless you follow the instructions re resetting the tail current, regularly fully charging and calibrating the meter it will almost certainly phone too late so the batteries are far more discharged than the monitor says they are. If the device is linked to voltage it will be better but may tell you to start the engine early (a good thing) because any load will depress the voltage and suggest the batteries are more discharged than they are.

    Thanks Tony

    Great advice as normal. At the moment I will be on shore power for a while so batteries will be fully charged. I have quite a few "rust" oppertunities to keep me entertained for a while.

    I also want to turn my thoughts to why I need to run the engine for hot water and the gas boiler for heating and not vice versa.

  2. Battery Charging primer

    in Boat Building & Maintenance

    Posted

    Bought the boat and replaced the 120 va invertor with a victron 3000 multyplus new bat monitor and colour controller, seller replaced bats with 3 x 120aH maintenance free and a 90 ah starter.

    I have set the BM to 360 and left everthing else to factory setting. What else should I consider to change within the system/ programing to give the batteries a "good life" while maintaing electricity to the boat?

    HTATBO as a new toy on her phone that instructs me to start the engine, makes a change from putting the kettle on :)

  3. Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    On 29/10/2019 at 17:35, Athy said:

    I would suggest that it may be vice versa. When Valley Cruises were recently wound up, it was stated they owned only three of their 14 boats. The rest were sponsored.

    This maybe true, the ex hire I have purchased from the owner, not Valley Cruises. He was very helpful, understanding and went many extra miles in satisfying our "wants" and I truely thank him for this.

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    Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    :apple:

     

    Sorry its been a while, but I now have a boat :captain:

    Exhire - good conversation with surveyor and doughts put to bed or sorted.

    Brillient and testing journey from Coventry canal to Yorkshire Calder & Hebble.

    Started to make it "ours", the real captain! she does know how to "change things inside"

    Thank you all for your advice, I have loads of questions I will bore you with later :)

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  5. Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted · Edited by AWETHEAYET
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    Thank you both for that.

    I suppose as a long term hirer, especially at first when I would scrape my way into a mooring spot as come back to haunt me :)

    9 minutes ago, peterboat said:

    The pitting is a bit strange but can be welded up as well 

    This was the bit that frightened me the most, if major overplaying is required then I may walk away, unless I can get some warranty on the plating not allowing ingress to cause problems later on

     

    or am I being too cautious?

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  6. Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    Why do we get a hull survey if we don't understand the report!!! That's not the question, it is what does this mean?

     

    "Aft chine edges are worn back to the chine welds"

    "10mm down to 9mm outboard edge"

    6.9 at port aft chine and 5.1 at STBD Aft chine.

    Widespread pitting on middle of bottom up to 3.5mm deep"

     

    Am I about to by a submarine?

  8. Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    Thank you all for your contributions, at least no one said they wouldn't touch an ex hire with the proverbial barge pole. I will be buying very soon a boat that will be used for weekends and holidays, and I already know I will be inundated with family and friends, :) 

    This will not be my forever boat, that will come when I retire, this boat will be for memory building with the those mentioned before, and having hired for over ten years, I do know a little about hire boats, not all, but we know what features we like and what we don't.

    There are quite a lot on the market that we would consider, two bedroom preferred but not essential, we've made up many a bed in our time but a lot better if you don't have to.

    Thanks all once again.   

  9. Purchasing an Ex Hire Boat, whats your view?

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    On 30/10/2019 at 12:42, Tony Brooks said:

    had an interesting encounter in a wide lock once. My boat (ex hire) and painted in a similar scheme to several hire fleets but slightly different colours waited in the lock for an on coming private boat to join us. That boat hit us with a hell of a bang and the steerer blithely said  "its a contact sport" without any apology. When I asked him if he would like me to reciprocate in the next lock because I do not like my boat being rammed like that he apologised and said as way of explanation "I thought is was a hire boat". Plonker.

    Sorry Tony I know this is a post from a while back but I'm in the position, after over 10 years of hiring, to now buy my own boat and was looking at ex- hire for family layout, I have over the years seen a deterioration in attitudes towards hire boats so really go with your "plonker"  assessment of this attitude.

     

    Quick question to all, when buying a boat, is it like buying a second hand car, you can make an offer lower than advertised price and then settle on a mutually agreed price, subject to a survey of course then negotiations start again.

     

    What is a typical low offer, medium offer etc. 15% less 10% less what ever?

  12. Where do I keep it?

    in General Boating

    Posted

    Just had a thought, think it should be a diverent thread but eh!

     

    This does not apply to me but I've found mooring costs are governed by size of boat, which I understand the reasons why.

     

    If CRT and many boaters wish to open up boating to many then should there be a reduced fee for people on benifits or lower in come?

    contraversial I know but whats peoples thoughts?

  13. Where do I keep it?

    in General Boating

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Liam said:

    Where abouts are you?

    I'm sure some of us could recommend various spots and some may know of vacancies.

    I live in Wakefield nearest spot is Fall Ings wich incidendently is lovely and the people who live there, that I have spoken too are nice people, but this place is full. Broad cut as one or two that hate hirers that we have experienced (ignornat Bs)

    Sorry in original post I said I wouldnot mention places but I've gone against that, sorry I'm sure some at Broad cut are lovely

  15. Where do I keep it?

    in General Boating

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

     

    CRT on line mooring. 

     

    None of that shyte you bin mentioning. Real boating. None of that secure car parking 240v bollard, pump-out, water tap, neat and tidy pontoons crap posh middle class boaters expect and demand. Muddy towpaths, street parking, 4 miles and 6 locks to the water point and elsan and back, no light pollution and brilliant stars, owls patrolling, isolation, peace and bliss..... 

     

     

     

     

    Actually best place so far is on line miles from pump out, less to elsan, diesel no chance, pub yes.

     

    I will not be a continues moorer, a boat is for boating not for mooring (Think I'll have that one!)

  16. Where do I keep it?

    in General Boating

    Posted

    Ok after over ten years of hiring we now find our selves in the position of being able to buy our own boat. Still having to work, so continuos crusing is out of the question. We have over the last 12 months or so been to visit sites close to where we live because Ive been told before you buy find somewhere to keep it.

    I don't want to name any because it would be unfair on these locations for someone to give opinions based on one or six visits ( I always take sites like trip adviser etc. with a large tanker of salt) but an example of the comments I have had so far at the places I have visited.

     

    There is only double mooring left, be quick to book or you will miss out.

    We are moving because its very clicky here

    Moor up here for the night ***** is away and we don't mind

    If you like a drink you'll fit in here

    We look after each other here

    Them down the lower end are stuck up

    and loads more

     

    What makes a good mooring for a weekend / holiday boat?

  17. Hire and enjoy Till the boaters kill the dream

    in General Boating

    Posted

    Thank you for all your posts, many do restore my faith in the boaty community.

    In my short time on this forum I have come to learn that "Tangent" is a must and leads to better threads. I will comment on some "off shoots".

     

    Spending at local business. We have never had a supermarket delivery to the boat, but do bring along breakfast materials and shop locallly enroute. A certain amount of "ballast" is brought aboard in case the days plan fails to meet the designated pub of the night. We are, as someone said, on holiday, so we will eat out more than we would normally. (poor planner if we miss the pub). Stopping in the middle of nowhere is also enjoyable.

     

    Cost. We got into baoting over ten years ago when our daughter turned 18 and suddenly we lost a free child place and she became an adult (In the eyes of the ture operator). Yes boating can be expensive but comparrisons with other holidays its reasonable, ok its not a B&B in Fily. Sharing with other families and friends which we have done many times brings down the cost.

     

    Training. This depends alot on where you hire from and the skill of the traineers. (Big shout out for Shire Cruises at Sowerby Bridge whoes training for beggineers is excellant). Some places just give you the key and you sign a paper and off you go, ok for us but the young couple and toddler on a boat we caught up with at the first lock, not good (Don't know if hire companies have to have a training liecence or something but I'm sure it would be a benifit).

     

    Mooring in spots for people with disabilities, I wouldn't dream of doing it in the car so I'm not going to do it on a boat.

     

    Thanks all once again

  18. Hire and enjoy Till the boaters kill the dream

    in General Boating

    Posted

    Firstly I must start with most of the people on the cut are friendly and helpful to new boaters and hirers.

     

    Over the past 10 years or so I have loved the reception we have recieved  from the canal people but latly (about 18 months) we have expierenced

    a decline in the attitude tuwards us that hire

    Are we not contributing enough to the upkeep of the system?

     

    When did this hate of use hirers start and why?

     

  21. Recommend me a new (decent) multimeter!

    in Boat Equipment

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

    Not sure what you mean.

     

    That 77 IV meter is being sold by a VAT registered business, and they can provide a VAT invoice.  The quoted text is from the business seller's information at the bottom of the listing.

    I'll say it again diverently so you don't think I'm against you. Well done Biscuit for providing a legal way of buying the meter

  22. Four Counties Ring - Scheduling Question

    in Holidays Afloat

    Posted

    On 29/12/2019 at 21:32, tipton1947 said:

    Hello again from the “experienced American couple”.  We have decided to do the Four Counties Ring. In order to minimize crowds we are looking at a September time frame. Does this decision make sense? Is there a particular time in September when the traffic levels on the canals drop. Or is this scheme just naive? 

     

    We have completed to previous trips. In 2016, we attempted the Llangollen canal at the end of July and found that we must have hit pretty much peak conditions. We did not complete the entire canal. In 2018 we returned in early June and found the crowds much reduced and the going much quicker. We are hoping to find September to be like June. We are all retired so we are pretty flexible in our timing.

    Four counties we did in 7 days peak time, we hire boats. I would recomend 10 days it was tough in 7 and didn;t really give us time to enjoy some of the villages enroute

  23. too expensive

    in Holidays Afloat

    Posted

    1 minute ago, matty40s said:

    I love seeing a hire boat when I am coming towards locks, generally lots of crew, I can help them learn and speed progress for both boats.

    Aw love thi, you are the nice people us hirers meet, some of us don't need help, but lots do and your education is going to keep people and property safe for years to come,, thank you.

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