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  1. So what happens to the dinner party onboard, or even the barbie on the canal side, where numerous nectars are inbibed and you step onboard to offload some ballast - could that be a chargeable offense?


    No - if you are moored up you are specifically not covered by the proposals. It's in the consultation document.


    So moor up and sup up!

  2. We bought a second hand boat in the end, it ticked every box on the wants list!


    Same for us, but it only took six months to find. My feeling is that for the budget (not too dissimilar from ours) you're better off with a good secondhand boat, so long as you go in with your eyes open. It may not be perfect, but if it's a few years old the serious problems should have reared their ugly heads by now - so you will see them and walk away.


    Questions I asked yourself when first viewing a boat:

    Does it tick all my boxes?

    Does it look right (ie no list!)?

    Has it been well maintained?

    Does it smell damp when you open the door?

    Is the engine 'ole nice and clean?


    If you are a bit of a perfectionist, don't accept the 'wrong' answer to any of the above!


    Best of luck, and enjoy looking. You'll see all sorts of rubbish at extortionate prices, but there are some good 'uns out there.



  3. Is there even the slightest evidence that the ability to navigate a boat at 4mph is sufficiently impaired by being above the drink drive limit to make legislation necessary?
    Quite a lot, in general terms: your judgement will be impaired. Whether this is a significant risk, in the operation of 200-year old technology, may be arguable.
    However if someone does cause an accident, and is found to be over the limit, it gives them a bit more teeth when it comes to making a prosecution.

    And a good thing too. But how can it ever be possible to prove

    (1) that the person who caused the accident or fatality was under the influence at the time, and hadn't just had several 'steadiers' afterwards (just as Gary says);

    (2) that the drunkard our gallant boys and girls in blue are accusing was actually steering at the time;

    (3) that it wasn't the other person's fault anyway?


    I hear the steady sound of filthy lucre dropping into the pocket of m'learned friend.


    Personally, I shall continue to navigate, pint in hand (or on the hatch cover, as circumstances dictate) unless there are several locks to negotiate. I think that qualifies as sensible drinking.


    Finally, I'd be surprised if anyone's third-party insurance would cough up if there were contributory negligence, ie too much alcohol, regardless of the 'alcohol limits' that may or may not be enforced. I don't think the minister's announcement makes a scrap of difference. It is a consultation paper, so not yet a done deal.



  4. I think the best method for doing locks is to pay attention at all times, if theres more than one of you then you need good communication, which includes knowing what signal to give if theres a problem so the paddles can be dropped quickly. taking it slowly is the best way for us.


    Spot on, I'd say!

  5. Not disagreeing with John but the great majority of boats are a good bit shorter than the great majority of locks - so work out how much it should leave at each end, and sit nearer the back but not too close to the gate. Then the crew opens the paddles - after a subtle nod from the steerer - and GENTLY! In an unfamiliar lock you don't know what will happen, so assume the worst!


    Single-handing is a special case, IMHO, and you can't possibly have a general rule. Never forget the third corollary of Nurke's Law: If a system is devised that is only intended to be applied in exceptional circumstances, it will immediately be universally applied!

  6. I quite agree, Gillie - ours is Colecraft too (1995 cruiser stern). Good welds, swims very well. I know the cruiser stern will put off the purists, but the hull's still a nice shape.


    And there are no puddles on the cabin roof, because the gaps in the handrails are in the right place!



  7. Good decision. We've just moved our new acquisition from Slough to Cheshire in four 'long weekends'. It was as pleasurable an experience as I hoped it would be, but I was glad there were two of us on board (self plus the memsahib). It's not just working the locks, you need someone to brew up (a.m.) and pour beer (p.m.).


    Might I suggest you seek a temporary crew member from this forum? There must be several out there willing to help, even for only one 'leg' at a time...

  8. does high capacity poo weigh more than normal poo?


    It weighs the same, there's just more of it. Perhaps the pedants among us would have written 'a high-capacity poo-suitcase'. Anyway, it's the liquid waste that weighs you down...


    I guess the suitcase job is a bit more discrete and possibly easier to carry than a bucket

    ...but not if it leaves a steady trail because of a leaky seal.


    Is this thread tasteless enough yet? B)

  9. No I'm an ignorant hypocrite who wouldn't dream of letting anyone overtake me.
    Nice one, Carlt: the response you got suggests the Americans aren't the only lot who don't 'do' irony.


    Where practicable, I let folk overtake


    I'm with you on this one, and it has to be up to the boat in front to decide when someone can come past. It's never up to the fastard behind.

  10. Can't speak for (or against) the product but I'd be very cautious about buying from ebuyer: their returns procedure is byzantine, and in my experience, even if you do succeed in getting a replacement unit it won't work either!


    Stick to a 'real' store, then at least if the device goes to ratchet you can complain in person, and embarrass the manager if necessary...

  11. "Disadvantages:

    Varied wants and aspirations of co-owners can cause friction (some can be excessively anal)"



    Go on - give us a laugh - what did they want?


    A flavour, no more...


    "We'd like some brackets welded in the foredeck so that we can padlock our bikes to them"

    ..and the rest of us can systematically remove skin from our knees whenever we want to put water in the tank.


    "We never use the microwave, so can it be removed and the space used for a bread bin?"

    ..why not keep yer bleedin' bread in the microwave?


    "The new mobile phone mounting should be in the forward saloon, not near the rear hatch"

    ...thus making sure it can't be heard by the steerer under any circumstances. On the other hand, you could just leave it switched off...


    "the consumption of diesel fuel seems excessive"

    ...not surprising judging from some of the diary entries - you must have been averaging at least 5mph


    I'd better stop now in case any of the co-owners recognise themselves.

  12. We've just sold (STC) our share of a 2003 Ownerships boat, having had four seasons of use. It suited us well at the time (especially since it is a 'special' school holidays share, for which you pay a premium).


    We had a lot of good experiences (it's a really nice boat) and a few duff ones. At the risk of repeating some of what has been said above:



    Very good looking, reliable, well designed boat

    A lot cheaper than owning your own, much less capital involved

    Can move it around from one season to another (by mutual consent) and get to see lots of the network in the process

    There is pride in ownership, when you have the boat

    Always comes with a full diesel tank and gas bottles when you pick it up (in theory, anyway)

    Predicable costs: cheaper than hiring (though not all that much cheaper)

    Fairly easy to sell on when the time comes



    Varied wants and aspirations of co-owners can cause friction (some can be excessively anal)

    You have to return boat early on the last day or you get grief from the Ownerships rep

    You have to book your three weeks up to 18 months in advance, which can be inconvenient, and when you finally get there, it might be persisting in down with rain

    Need to clear all your possessions out: you would leave most of them on your own boat


    We've moved on because of changes in circumstances and a different life/work balance. The ability to get on our boat whenever we fancy was the clincher for us, and no shared ownership scheme will offer that. But you pays your money and you takes your choice.



  13. On a previous boat I had all sorts of problems that were possibly down to water in the diesel tank. It may have been bacterial growth or just water, but the advice I received at the time (right or wrong) was to keep the fuel tank full in winter, to avoid condensation on the steel surfaces exposed to air inside the tank.

  14. that whole book is a book of fiction written by men who wanted power... its not got anything to do with real life in the 21st century or flying flags to identify yourself visually out at sea.


    flying a national flag from a narrowboat is a bit daft really, its not really necessary and can be annoying to see all the st georges crosses each time theres a bit of football going on. wind vanes, colourful flags of no national identity look nice, but im a bit bored of patriotism based on sporting prowess. the red ensign, i like it, its a practical thing to have on a boat at sea, but on a boat on a canal it just gets in the way.

    I'm with Honey on this one, in all respects. I simply can't see the point of flying a flag on a narrowboat, as I feel no pressing need to be recognised as a member of any particular identity group. I'm just me, take it or leave it. I can't any the point in pretending to be 'The Joe Soap Canal Carrying Company', and I don't emblazon my name or that of my family (or wife's family) on the side of the boat either.


    The Captain of the CSS Alabama a Confederate raider (built on Birkenhead) flew British flags so he could get close to merchant ships to attack them. This was acceptable in those days


    ... but it was expected that an attacking ship would run up its own colours before firing a shot, hence 'showing his true colours'.


    and Malcolm:


    That's the whole point of life.............


    definitely :) but since you went there first, why do you religionists insist on inflicting your delusions on us rational people?

  15. Notwithstanding my cruel remarks, I did derive a certain pleasure by navigating at 3mph eastwards under the M25 at 5 o'clock on a Thursday, whilst Joe Public was averaging 3mph northwards and his mate 3mph southwards over the top. I wasn't following a BMW, either.

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