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I've considered this question myself in recent times and it is certainly cheaper to burn smokeless coal per kw/h of output. As mentioned coal has a much higher output per kg.
The government have done some heat output tests and the results indicate kiln dried wood is about 2.5 times more expensive per kw/h compared to smokeless coal. The only way it's cheaper is if you can get free wood.
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1 hour ago, peterboat said:
He needs to keep the Lithium battery it's a plus over old fashioned LAs especially if it's a good install
I'd absolutely agree.
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2 hours ago, MtB said:
Having to run the engine constantly to get hot water when moored up for a few days is a bit of a ball-ache in summer though, when solar would otherwise keep the batteries fully charged.
Yeah it would, although it sounds like the OP’s friend has a mooring so presumably 240v is available for immersion heating (assuming the boat has this).
2 hours ago, MtB said:Also for those who worry about such things, adding a gas installation will invalidate the RCD/RCR compliance of the boat, which isn't cheap to get re-inspected and re-certified.
16 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:The RCD/RCR PCA (Post Construction Assesment) seem to run at around £2000 + the cost of any remedial work.
Ouch.
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Just did a bit of research on current Wallas 87D prices....a shade under £4000. That means a used one will probably make £2000 on ebay, which should mostly cover the cost of a gas cooker and gas installation should the buyer decide the Wallas isn't for him. Although like toilets, I say live with it for 6 months before making any decisions.
Sounds like it's a relatively modern boat....so will likely have Webasto/engine/immersion water heating already so gas water heating won't be required.
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Although probably supplied by Kuranda, the stove in question is likely a Wallas 87D stove. I had one in a previous boat and I loved it. Very economical and clean as it uses a sealed flame with it's own flue. The oven is much better than a gas oven as it's fan assisted and works just like an electric oven in a house. The hob also works just like an electric ceramic cooker. I used to run the oven as a heater as it was so economical on diesel! I never had any trouble with it although I was not living aboard.
The down sides are the hob isn't as quick to heat up as a gas hob, and it does require 12v to operate. IIRC it draws about 8 amps when starting but once it's running it draws only 1 amp or so.
They cost an absolute fortune so if your friend decided to sell it and go to gas they'd probably get a couple of grand for it!
In summary, definitely not a no no.
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26 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
I think the seals are in front of the grease hole and the shaft bearing is usually a fluted Cutless rubber bearing with longitudinal "slots" in the rubber. I don't see water will not come out of that hole, especially if the assembly has a water pipe leading up to the weed hatch trunk.
Certainly on mine water didn't come out of the grease hole when the screw was removed. I suppose it could depend on the configuration of the water supply hose.....on my boat the intake for it was just above the waterline in the weed hatch so water only went to the gland when the prop was turning. Perhaps the op's intake is below the waterline so the gland is permanently 'wet'.
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3 minutes ago, notts_alan said:
Took grease screw out and forced grease in past the jet of water spinning shaft by hand , that slowed the drip right down
There was a jet of water coming out of the grease hole? That's distinctly not normal.
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This has been extensively discussed here:-
And here:-
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2 hours ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:
I soon learnt to take it nice and slow around them f***ers 😂
Well I imagined he was saying "fathers"....although I usually speed up when I encounter clergy, especially if on foot.
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I had one of these Vetus dripless stern glands on a previous boat. They are very sensitive to shaft alignment (otherwise they drip) so the above suggestions to check engine mounts and shaft condition are where I would start. Have you looked down the weed hatch to try and ascertain the condition of the prop? It's worth taking the allen screw off and applying silicone grease, but in my experience it won't make much difference to any drips. In any case Vetus recommend applying silicone grease every year or 150hrs.
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1 hour ago, Tigerr said:
I have a phone with an EE contract, and I can send 100Gb a month to another sim. Does that need to be another EE sim?
Assuming you are talking about multi sim or family account then yes it has to be another EE sim.
1 hour ago, Tigerr said:If I find a cheaper data sim card, from another supplier, will my Iphone on the EE contract be able to recognise the signal?
Yes you can put any sim you like in the B535 router, and your phone (or any other device) will connect to the router via WiFi just like WiFi in a house. It is totally separate from any network locks on your phone.
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18 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Topics now merged.
For future reference, when reporting duplicate topics it really helps to give us moderators the links to the two topics you are suggesting should be merged. It can take us a long time to find the ones you are referring to otherwise. Sometimes we can't even tell which ones you mean.
You might as well merge it with this one too
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14 minutes ago, MtB said:
Its not that it can't, I suspect its that the Beta 43 is usually installed over-propped for comfortable quiet revs in normal cruising. Which also means it won't go up to max revs and max power.
Maybe that's what he means. I have a Beta 30 with matched prop and it will only rev to it's peak torque rpm of 2600rpm.....it's still producing 24 of it's 30 horses though.
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5 hours ago, IanD said:
No it doesn't, the power/torque curves are what the engine can put out on a dyno -- only the fuel consumption curve is with a prop load. Prop power absorbed (and fuel consumption, approximately...) is proportional to rpm^3, see the blue curve here -- 15kW at 2200rpm is 20hp, like I said... 😉
Why do you say a 20hp RN engine can actually produce this power at full rpm, while a Beta 43 can't?
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23 minutes ago, IanD said:
A modern engine like a Beta 43 is theoretically double the power at maximum rpm, but most people with any mechanical sympathy wouldn't run them this fast due to noise and vibration, anything above 2200rpm is rarely used for any length of time -- and at this speed with a matched prop it'll be putting out about 20hp... 😉
Your figures are miles off! A Beta 43 with matched prop makes 20hp at 1100rpm and about 37hp at 2200rpm.
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On 24/02/2024 at 12:28, IanD said:
All devices like this actually run from DC which sometimes comes from a wall wart PSU plugged into the mains,
But if they're physically built into a mains plug together with the PSU -- as many are -- you're screwed... 😞
Well yes, obviously.
29 minutes ago, Silent Flight said:This is the same router I have. And in the same position, yet my signal drops out halfway towards the stern. Where is your antenna positioned?
The router (and built in wifi antenna) is in a wardrobe at the front of the boat. It is on the top shelf so quite high up.
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2 hours ago, nealeST said:
I’ve still got a family ticket valid for a return to the museum from last summer. It’s a clincher!🙃
So you could just go back to plan A and hire from Nantwich? That would give you more time to explore.
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2 hours ago, nealeST said:
Thanks Alec, June 24 is longest day of the year…give or take….won’t be dark until after 10! Suits us. My eldest son very capable as well. Now we are spoilt for choice!
To be honest if you've never done the Llangollen, I think your only choice is to head to Llangollen now you're starting in Wrenbury..it's just so lovely. It'll still probably mean 10hr cruising days, but it's worth it.
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1 hour ago, Ewan123 said:
I wonder whether that's actually how it will be framed or whether the IWA are putting a bit of a spin it there 🤔
We'll find out I guess. The BBC do mention the funding issue in their blurb for the programme.
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Next week’s Countryfile will explore the heritage and value of our canals and rivers, as well as the threat from inadequate Government funding.
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1 hour ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:
I wonder if the increase over the last couple of years has also been caused by the rising cost of gas and electric prices to heat properties and the fitting of multi fuel fires seam the cheap heating option? So could be argued its a financial thing to have one fitted?
I imagine there may of been a lot of once covered fireplaces re-opened and put back into use?
I did this experiment last winter, turning the gas central heating off and just using smokeless coal in the multi-fuel stove at home. It’s placed quite centrally so that it does actually heat the whole house quite effectively. This was when energy was at it’s most expensive, and I worked out I spent nearly the same in coal compared to gas saved. So I only saved a little - perhaps £100.
Now that energy prices have dropped a bit and coal is a bit more expensive, I doubt I’d save anything now. Burning wood would be a non starter in this experiment as it’s considerably more expensive per kw/h compared to smokeless coal…..I’d probably have been £1000 out of pocket if I’d tried it with wood.
An open fire would also be a non starter…..they are only something like 25% efficient whereas a stove is 80% efficient.
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20 minutes ago, IanD said:
Thanks, those are the figures I remembered -- and posted ages go, I think.
I found them here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/733368/domestic-burning-consultation-ia.pdf
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3 hours ago, IanD said:
IIRC smokeless fuel has much lower PM2.5 emissions than burning wood
Around a quarter the amount compared to seasoned or kiln dried wood, and way way less than unseasoned wood.
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9 hours ago, Silent Flight said:
Reviving old thread but it’s a sticky, so anyways. What device is favoured to boost Wi-Fi signal from a 4g router with antenna attached? The router is on the 12v and ideally I want a booster that also works on 12v. TIA
A glance on google reveals very few options. SONOS have a device called a boost that looks like it runs on 5 volts so you could get a small step down transformer to run it from 12v. Other than that wifi boosters seem to all plug direct into 240v sockets.
My Huawei b535 has very powerful wifi.....I get a signal outside at the very stern of the boat even though the router is at the front of the boat, inside a steel cabin!
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As 500 litres has lasted you 2 years, that's just under 5 litres a week. So one 20 litre jerry can a month (on average) is all you need which is not too much of a hardship if you decide to shop around garages in your area. If they ask you to fill in a form asking what you're using it for, heating is a legitimate reason.