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NB DW

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  1. Fair enough. If Aintree shells are decent enough, and priced low, plate thickness and steel source aside as it sounds as though they're sourced from the same place, what makes another shell 'better'/more expensive? Design? Prestige? Or just because?
  2. Some pedantry going on here. I don't think many would relate Poundland and Aldi with positivity, or it being questionable that you can buy a fully fitted boat for the prices mentioned. Nobody was unpleasant about Aintree directly, they hadn't been named at the point it was said. But anyway...
  3. Thanks. I watched the video linked below. Really interesting and they do mention the BS/EN standards etc but go on to mention air pockets and so on in the steel with lower quality steel. So I'm guessing there's still low quality steel that still conforms to these standards!? All very confusing to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZCjrKd6fYU
  4. I'm not sure likening them to the boating equivalent of Poundland is exactly positivity, is it? Their heritage is ex Skater Marine.
  5. That's right, just 57 ft but didn't ask any further questions about design etc so as not to waste their time. Evidentily there's some negativity towards Aintree boats from the above comments. I had a 25ft and never had a problem with it, and the fit out appeared decent enough. I've no issue with a template design if that's the reason costs are kept down.
  6. Thanks. To be honest, I didn't ask Bickerstaff too many detailed questions as within the first 30 seconds I found out they don't build the size of boat I'm looking for which was a shame. They were really helpful in general though and spent a while chatting despite knowing they couldn't help me further with a build. I agree and would probably pay the extra. I'm not too fussed about cabin sides/roof etc, just the hull.
  7. Thickness is what appears to be the standard 10, 6, 5, 4 mm. Swan and Bickerstaffe use Aintree shells. I'd understood the millscale would have to be removed too. I'm just guessing they potentially don't have the facilities to do it. One did say they'd be able to if I wanted it but likely to add a chunk of money to the build.
  8. Actually one builder was shamed, I won't name them, but there's plenty on here which supports what was said. They weren't on the list of builders to speak to for that reason.
  9. Yep. That's an Aintree boat. From one of the Beetle range. It's a template design with limited customisation - the layout choices are fixed - which I guess keeps the cost down a lot. Plenty seem happy enough with them. And Swan and Bickerstaffe use their shells too, so they can't exactly be that bad. Any thoughts on the questions asked though?
  10. I'm contemplating a new build in the near future. I've spoken to a few builders in the last few days - some of which seem to have especially decent reputations, two of which use Aintree shells - and asked about the prep done to the hull before 2 pack painting. All of which advised they do not grit blast shells before applying their 2 pack paint to the hull. I'd always understood from what I'd read that shells must be shotblasted for 2 pack paint to adhere. They advised otherwise, saying they sand between coats etc etc. What's your thoughts? Is it a matter of following individual paint manufacturer's guides? I also asked about the source of steel. With some of the new boats being very competitively priced I'd wondered if savings had been made in terms of the steel quality. I'm told it's all pretty much sourced from the same place - not China, I cannot remember where now. Is this right? In fairness to them all, none of them slated or had a bad word to say about their competitors, and one went as far as saying it's hard to buy a 'bad boat' as such, more that you'll end up with the boat equivalent of a Ford Mondeo if you go for the more competitively priced builder. Nothing wrong with that at all, it'll be fine, but won't ever been a Lexus etc. And by budget build, I mean just under £50k for a 35ft and just under £55K for a 40ft.
  11. Just doesn't seem to be many listed and on brokerage at all. But you're right in terms of keeping in the loop - mine sold via the broker without even being advertised.
  12. Nope. Just a 57ft Liverpool hull with Grosvenor Marsh fitout from 2006 at £53K.
  13. Thanks. I was there yesterday to meet the new owners of my boat which has just sold via Aqueduct. Unfortunately, nothing there of interest at the moment.
  14. I spoke with ABNB today as Great Escape was still available and was hoping to discuss whether my previous offer might be considered given time has gone on with no sale. It sold yesterday or at least an offer was accepted. There doesn't seem to be much coming to the market at the moment, especially 40-50ft - even the bigger brokers like Whilton, Venetian and Rugby boats have hardly anything compared to what they'd normally have!
  15. Just sold my 25ft, the broker didn't even have to advertise it in the end as I introduced the buyer to the broker via the Facebook group. Lots of dreamers and timewasters on there initially, hence it going to a broker. Anyhow, deal was done within the week. I suggest you might want to join the Aintree Owners and Beetle Owners groups on Facebook and put a post up there.
  16. I've done my sums and deliberately pessimistically, weighing up having a small leisure boat and keeping my home, and a larger boat to live on and taking on a lodger or renting the house out completely. Oddly enough, taking on a lodger looks like the best bet. No tax to pay whereas I'd lose 40% if I let the home out. And I've not got the hassle of getting rid of stuff/putting it into storage etc. And I can check on my home any time I like! The selling point to lodgers is that essentially they're getting the benefit of home that'll be essentially theirs as if it were privately rented but at a much reduced cost. I can't take responsibility for that one. But I've heard of lots of new-ish Collingwoods, particularly widebeams, going for a hell of a lot less than the owners have paid for them. Anyhow, my offer's been knocked back and I now know the price they'll accept, and it's not one I'm going to stretch to I'm afraid.
  17. In in my mid-30s, my pension pot's worth nothing at all. But I've started to remedy that over recent months and hopefully it'll continue. Letting my home / getting a lodger will ultimately pay for the upkeep of the boat. That's my justification at least. Like you say, live for today but still take some responsibility about saving for tomorrow too.
  18. I'd hadn't considered the inheritence situation to be honest. But what I do find odd is the situation a number of people have mentioned whereby the lack of a foreign holiday this year is going to be subsituted be whacking £50K on a narrowboat. It just doesn't seem to stack. Balance that with the state of the economy too and it all feels odd to me. But then again what do I know? I don't need a boat to live on, I've already got a home, and this totally undermines the above sentence.
  19. I'm northern, I'm always going to make an offer even if I think the price is right! Why wouldn't I? The worst they can say is no, and that's where the real negotiation begins. This boat's been up for sale since well before lockdown and not sold within days/hours of the broker opening back up either - so maybe it isn't that good.. Nobody got rich through giving their money away ?
  20. In my experience, be it cars, homes or boats, there's nearly always room for negotiation but every situation's different.
  21. If I were a broker I'd be asking for that in writing! Wouldn't want to be accused of turning away a sale!
  22. Thanks for the replies. I've visited ABNB before and was impressed, and I'd heard they don't take on junk. Anyhow, an offer's gone in this morning so waiting to hear back. If it's not accepted I'll wait for the next to come up. I'm sure the increased recent interest will quieten off soon enough. In terms of low-balling offers against the asking price and whether they're accepted or not, it all depends on the seller's circumstances. It might be out of necessity and need or any number of reasons, and I guess it's this that'll determine whether or not it's accepted. Like with selling a home I'm supposing a broker is contractually bound to put forward all offers to the vendor regardless of whether they believe it to be too low.
  23. Thank you I like it not having fixed furniture too. But maybe that's what's putting off buyers equally.
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