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Belgium again, on the joint trip with Secunda andArthur, heading back to England.. The bridge with a freighter going through is at Bruges, with the tail end of short boat Arthur visible on the left. It may not look it, but this was one of several exits from a largely ciircular lock on the canal past the city.
The twin tower device was one of several encountered west of Gent, in one instance, thwarting the efforts of a quantity of people trying to get to a factory on time. Water transport took precedence, but it was not well received
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15 minutes ago, PeterScott said:
Many tears ago, on the way through Belgium (a great country for canalling, still). Secunda on the left, Arthur, right, heading ultimately and respectively, for Maldon in Essex, and Braunston.
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When the Jam Hole traffic ended in 1970, the regular run with coal from Atherstone to Kierley & Tonge's plant on the outskirts of London, the craft on the last trip were unexpectedly held up by a stoppage for lock repairs on their way back up the Grand Union Canal.
As ever, the three pairs of boat's in the Blue Line fleet were moored according to a certain pattern. The reason is explained by a tale passed on by an apprentice woodworker at the company's Braunston base: Wanting to return a screwdriver he had borrowed from the Whitlock family of 'Renfrew' and 'Lucy', he asked Arthur Bray, who was passing by, if he could drop it off for him, whereupon Arthur drew himself up straight and announced "I havn't spoken to them for the last nineteen years and i'm not going to start now."
Hence the mooring etiquette, with the Bray's 'Roger' and 'Raymond' separate from the rest. For all that time, in what was to be the last regular traffic on the cut, all that had been exchanged were the stoniest of stares.
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The Yonne at Joigny, and its meeting with the Seine at Montereau (Seine coming in from the left, Yonne under the sunset)
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Our boat as she was when we bought her, and as she is now (Roof raised, larger windows install, stairway shifted). Lots of other mods elsewhere, including hull lengthening, cabins rearranged, machinery changed, toilets installed ..... and so on. There are still a few original bits somewhere, I think.
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Nivernais scenes. The straight bit is the portion near Cravant, cut under the Freycinet programme to bypass an uncertain reach of the Yonne.. The other photo is of the river itself at Rechimet
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Our neighbour at the moorings in Auxerre lives mainly on freshwater mussels, the shells of which get left on the deflector plates of Luciole's rudder. He does, however, also like the occasional croissant
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With the River Yonne running in and out, the Canal du Nivernais has some splendid weirs. In our earlier days with the Secunda I used to moor for the night at one of these, just resting against the stonework, but was asked to stop by the section manager, on the grounds that our mooring spikes would damage the structure. When I pointed out that we did not use any spikes, just laid a rope laid round a big stone buttress at the upstream end, he thought for a while, then said he would be grateful if I stopped mooring there all the same lest it set a bad example to others who might use spikes after all. There have been changes in personnel since then, so maybe we could start again. It was always a smashing mooring.
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On 09/09/2021 at 12:36, The Bearwood Boster said:
It was actually the 'Oliver Cromwell' which sank,'Edward Elgar' is still going strong on the river Severn.
My apologies to all concerned. Must try harder. Glad to hear the good ship Edward Elgar is still around, however. JL
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4 hours ago, The Bearwood Boster said:
It was actually the 'Oliver Cromwell' which sank,'Edward Elgar' is still going strong on the river Severn.
My apologies to all concerned. Must try harder. Glad to hear the good ship Edward Elgar is still around, however. JL
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For those of us in the hotel-boat business, a telling commentary in the 'Oldie' magazine a few years back. The Edward Elgar described was subsequently sold, then sank while under tow to new owners across the Irish Sea. The article rang a few bells for me of my own early days. But we never did quoits.
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The Aster was launched in 1951, possibly the last timber-built freighter in France. At 30.42 metres she was of the type known as a batarde, being shorter than the standard 38.5 metre peniche, and as such was capable of navigating the sub-standard section of the Canal du Nivernais. When the regional authority took over the running of that section in the late 1970s she was consverted to passenger-carrying and ran for many years before falling foul of up-dated regulations requiring intermediate bulkheads, stability testing, etc. She is now preserved on the Saone at St Jean de Losne.
When the Aster was motorised the traditional rounded stern was by no means suitable for a straightforward propellor arrangement. Instead s shaft was positioned below the rudder with a propellor at the after end. The boat's bow rudder was also extensively deployed (in a fashion beyond my own understanding!)
A similar dilemma arose in the late 1920s with the Ponctuel, now our own hotel-barge Luciole. Originally drawn by mules, she had the same bluff stern, but being of steel, rather than timber a tunnel arrangement could be contrived, as in Picture Three. It still works well.
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4 hours ago, Pluto said:
I was there in 2000.
I think the old lock house belonged then to someone who kept the place in order, but it has since lapsed back into wilderness. I tried then to persuade people to join in making the old lock into a dry-dock, a sorely needed facility for those of us in the hotel-barging trade, for whom the alternative is a journey of several days to the River Seine, (an unattractive prospect if you have suffered a damaged propellor). The cost, however, knocked this project on the head.
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On 01/09/2021 at 13:42, Dav and Pen said:
In 2018 at La Roche on the R. Yonne. This small mooring just below the entrance to the Burgundy canal is a peaceful spot with electricity and it’s possible to get the car near as well. Useful for some last minute painting before the winter. We didn’t know it then but this was to be our last cruise and the barge would be sold during the coming winter.
I several times used this mooring myself, an appreciated alternative to the basin at the start of the Canal de Bourgogne. In my early days there was all-night shunting on the railway lines beside the basin, plus the thunderous roar of TGV trains which went through at the time, all reasonably subdued at this nicer spot around the corner.
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Sunken 30 metre barges on the old link with the river at Cravent, Canal du Nivernais, superceded by the Freycinet route of the 1880s
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Fro the days when wire cable was used for making fast. Terrible stuff, and dangerous. I inherited some when I bought the Secunda You had to wear gloves, and check regularly for strands that might have parted. Artificial fibre ropes took over, to the relief of all concerned.
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Grand Union days. Going up to Marsworth, many years ago
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Seen on board a freight barge on the Bruxelles - Charleroi Canal. A friend who carried similar rolled steel coils said he was always worried they might break loose, a possibility of the vessel tilts on running aground. I would not like to bbe the guy who puts the wedges in place, either.
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The Yonne agin. The locks get wider, yet more primitive, on the way towards the Seine. The freight barge seen leaving is pushing another, occupying the full length of the lock when inside.
To moor up on entering from above, the bow is brought to rest against the vertical bit of wall just before the lower gates, which involves some fine calculation on the steerer's part, being 2 x 38.5 metres back from the point of contact. These boats are built of thinner metal than narrow boats are made of, and they had 500 tonnes of grain on board.
On this pair the captain and his wife took turns up at the bow end, communicating through loudspeaker connection as they made their way on.
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The Yonne, a formidable river, takes on new stature north of Auxerre. The cruiser will be OK in summer conditions, and will be able to wait at the jetty ahead, for the lock here. the first downstream of the city, takes an age to operate. With any kind of barge it is advisable to wait way back upstream, for there is a strong sideways pull here, down towards the barrage - going from worrying to lethal after rainfall.
Whenever I have taken our own barge through, I have checked with the lock-keeper first, making a personal visit if time allowed, then kept well upstream of the bridges from which this photo was taken, until the gates are fully open. From here onwards, lock-keepers will be prepared, and have things ready (hopefully).
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6 hours ago, Tam & Di said:
A view echoing John's description of rope handling that Ditchcrawler will recall of trainees under instruction.
I was just on a modern repro barge with beautiful shiney stainless bollards and the owner had beautiful silky lines to go with his shiney boat. The problem was he had one end of his line tied to one of the bollards and then wrapped round and round it to stop it coming off and making it unusable for anything else. He was taking the line from the boat, round a lockside bollard and back in locks, so he then only had the other one of the pair to take turns of line on to hold the boat steady. He'd had to cut a line the previous day as it jammed when he was going downhill, and that nearly happened twice more while I was with him. He was from a sailing background and had only had his barge for a week. He was unable to understand what I told him that would minimise the odds of getting lines jammed and seemed to think it was a normal part of canal life. I fear he is going to get through a lot of rope before he learns.
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One further tip regarding bollards: painting the tops of them is fine, but be wary of doing the sides: the paint will grab the rope, rather than let it wind round smoothly. Such was an early experience of myself. Things ran properlyly once the paint wore off (which it did very quickly).
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While ropes are not much used in locks on the English canals, in mainland Europe they are absolutely essential. As are substantial, accessible bollards, the larger the better, to provide the friction by which the vessel is stopped..
It may not be clear in the photo, but the line from the shore leads around the forward of the two bollards, with Tom, our matelot at the time, putting the turns on the second one of the pair. Using a solitary bollard on its own can, and often does, lead to disaster.
Once the boat is halted an extra turn, or maybe two. with a figure of eight to follow will leave the line secure. It's a time-honoured system, using the pins on one bollard to provide a lead to the other. Anything else - and there are some weird arrangements on modern leisure boats - gives me the abdabs, I fear.
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Taking on fuel on the Seine. after our visit to a shipyard west of Paris.. These guys were fairly robust with their technique: it seemed to be all or nothing. Shortly after the picture was taken our tamk overflowed and the side deck was, briefly, several centimetres deep.In response, a powdered antidote that they carried on board was distributed in quantity to clear up the mess. As their stock of this was considerable it can be assumed such spillages are a regular event.
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Out amongst the stars at last. 16 months late, our hotel-barge operating season has finally begun.
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Tonic required. Send in your photos of what is nice on the waterways now.
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The Canal du Nivernais last week. Pictures by Will Liley.