Karrier

That's what looks like is on my ex's 2.2 but deffo nothing like that on mine ?

I've had a good look and there is no oil extractor on my engine that I can see so a pump it will have to be

I did think i saw a brass pump on her engine and wondered if thsts what it was, haven't seen one on my engine though, I do have better access to the sump on mine and worked out I could drain it onto a low profile tray but to be honest I know I would end up making a right mess, that's why trying it out on the ex's first is a good option ? I will have a better look and if need be will get a vacuum pump from evilbay, thanks for replies.

Ive used facebook since about 2006 or 7 i know most on my friends list personally but do not use their messenger service or app and lately just visit groups I am a member of or help admin on, one has 15000+ members and doesn't seem to have too many ejits posting rubbish they don't know about, on the other hand I don't post personal stuff on my news feed, I am getting increasingly more irate with what farcebooks algorithms decide to show me. I have even gone back to a forum I set up in 2003 and was very busy till around 2010 when FB really took off, I must admit I prefer forums like this one.

Yes thats so right, DNA knew his stuff.

I need to service my ex wife's bmc 2.2, the oil in it is... Well......well past it, as I have only ever changed oil in wheeled vehicles a boat engine is a bit different. Do I need to get an oil sucker gadget to pull it up through the dipstick tube or is there there a much simpler boat method like drilling a hole in the hull to let it out..... lol. I want to get it right on hers so I have no trouble when I need to change mine on my bmc 2.52 ?

Hi, ah right thank you for explaining, when I had a look after he had put it back together and he started the engine, the smoke started to show coming from exactly there, not the exhaust but what looked like the left side of the mounting / leaver, I said I thought it might need grinding the valve seat but didn't realize there were two. So it needs to be removed and ground in on both valve seats which may fix it? Thanks for all the other replies, these engines are so different to what I know, why do they need this to start, I did think it was very slow to start up compared to my bmc 2.52 but this is the first narrow boat engine I have looked at, all others have been in cabin cruisers.

Hi I am posting this for someone else who isn't online. He was having trouble with a sticking leaver so he took it apart and cleaned it up, he decoked as best he could but now it's all back together it's smoking, not a lot but enough to warrant sorting out. I personally know nothing about this my experiance is with BMC and Perkins. I had a look when it was apart and wondered if the valve seat needs to be ground in like a valve / cylinder head. Is it just a basic valve? This interests me as I want to learn about these engines, I used to service single cylinder hand cranked listers that we used for mobile traffic lights back in the 80s but they had nothing on these lovely engines. Any help would be great, I've added some pics of the offending part and the engine and it's zerial plate too.

That is a really sweet boat you have there :-) What confuses me is the name, is northerner the name of the hull? I've found pictures online of similar boats from the 70's with the same style wooden wheelhouse on boats classed as northerners and also sea lions though all are that little bit different. It's a bit like the LGV dodge 50 series I specialise in, there were 15000 permutations when every special equipment option is taken into consideration and that only covered vans and chassis cabs as all other body types were fitted out by specialists so pinning down a 50 series and it' build spec can be really quite hard making parts sourcing a bit of a nightmare. I'e spent the last 20 years nerding the 50 series to the point where my website has over 26000 pages, images, downloads....... I wonder if this is going to happen with colvic for me?

Thank you, I came across it by accident, I went to see a colvic 26 at staniland marina in Thorne and they told me there was one similar half a mile down the canal so I went and had a peek at it, I didn' know it was for sale and no one was about. That evening while doing a Google image search I found an image of the bow of a northerner, clicked it and it took me to an ebay listing for Hornblower, had only gone up the day before so I contacted seller he took listing down and I bought it. Pic of Posh Totty from cabin entrance to aft section and one from outside, I was going to get this one before I came across Hornblower but I would have had to build the aft cabin myself.

So maybe a northerner sealion 28 then? It' difficult to work out what' original and what isn't, on Jones boatyard I found a picture of a colvic northerner interior which is same as mine but no one seems to have seen one with the aft cabin like mine. I have even been looking through the old colvic website which was online between 1997 and 2000, not possible to see any images but the text is all available, ńothing about Watson's or Northerners though, I know how basic the web was back then, my first website went live just over 18 years ago and that was just basic block colours a few rubbish clipart images and some text i had no idea what i was doing back then. I use the wayback machine to view websites that have been removed or to see earlier versions, brilliant bit of kit.

Hi peeps and thanks for replying, 28.8 at water line does sound about right, @Naughty Cal ah yes I have met them both a couple of times and he only bumped us once when he was mooring up lol. I have had a good look for a hot stamped serial number but cannot find anything, I guess until it' out of the water for an antifoul and annodes etc I will find out what the hull actually looks like but I am guessing it has two side stubby fins to stop it rolling over when on sand or mud?

Hi everyone I recently bought this boat as a Colvic Northerner 26, absolutey love it but there is some confusion to what it really is, the boat measures from tip of bow to the transcom 31.6ft and beam is around 3 meters. I was wondering if anyone knows about colvic, the boat data base on canalplacAC.co.uk show it as 28.8ft 1970 2.5 diesel (it has the 2.52 BMC) and not much else. I've been told that the wooden cabin colvic northerners are the early ones as later were grp, I have no history to this boat as the man I bought it off had only had it for a year and hadn't used it much and didn' have time as he had just taken on a pub so needed it gone as he had no time for it. Name is Hornblower and Cart number is 120066 TIA. Greg

Hi I am Greg usually known as Karrier Bag online but that had been taken here already, unless I joined already without realising it? I specialise in Dodge 50 vehicles, UK built between 1979 and 93, Perkins engines spicer gearboxes..... as well as other stuff, like I ran the UKs smallest touring circus for over 25 years, performed on tv and at Buckingham palace but I don' like the attention I get when out and about so i stopped all that high profile stuff and kept it all low key ish. I am looking at starting boat engine repairs and recovery as I have 35 years experience on Perkins and BMC etc, also welding / fabricating and general bodge/ work arounds. Have a land rover so can get most places and a boat for the times only a water borne vehicle can reach the target. Anyhoo, I've been on the water for about 16 months now, we got a Norman 23 with 2.2bmc but after 15 months living on Lady Fee we were nearly killing each other due to so little room lol, so on Jan 3rd this year I went and got another boat so we have one each, it' a Colvic, think a northerner, tip of bow to stern is 31.6ft but online it' registered as 28.6ft (maybe length in water) built in 1970 index number is 120066. Bmc 2.52 and a river / sea gearbox (not sure how to change gear but I haven' had a good look yet)), engine is very clean and looked after. I am also fed up with farcebook sorry Facebook and prefer the old style forums like this one so it' nice to be posting somewhere new. I have lots of practical experiance with stuff like solar and wind power and have fitted out wheeled vehicles with burners and living spaces. A couple of pics of my new boat are below. Greg