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SadieF

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  1. Hiya Can anyone let me know an insurance company that insures liveaboard cc'ers. I just got a boat and having a bit of online faff with it. I also don't have a survey, so probably only third party available til I get it. Please let me know if that's right. The boat was made 1975. Any other cc'ers out there, can you advise me what you did for insurance. Thanks in advance Sadie
  2. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    It does look very high. i wonder why that is. it really is a minefield out there. I've been in touch anyway - waiting for some more pics and info.
  3. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Thanks. This looks promising. Does it mean the entire original hull has been replaced - rather than plated in places. http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=569823
  4. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Hi Mike the Boilerman Thanks for this advice. Yeah i'm dubious about the engine. The owner texted me the other day saying she wanted 17k for it. I spat out my tea involuntarily through shock. I think that's a bit silly, so i'm going to leave it and sit tight for a better deal that's within my budget. Working engine and sound hull has to be a priority. There was an advisory in the survey about the engine possibly needing a full rebuild and being costly, however she advised this wasn't the case, .... yeah if it's going so slowly and smoking it doesn't seem right and i feel like i'm being taken for a ride a bit.
  5. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    I believe the surveyor was saying it's been plated from the bow 8 feet back. so measurements starting from the back. and it's just the base plate. Even so, this is quite alot of overplating work. The owner has got back to me and they are wanting 17k. i think this is a bit ridiculous so i'm going to leave it. I can't really be bothered to haggle it down as the overplating and potentially dodgy engine are a bit off putting. I can't afford to spend money on a boat that might sink or need loads doing. It's not a springer. it's unknown. the orginal post was about a springer
  6. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Thanks for this. yes i saw it but i think it's a little too wee for me. yes i thought it seems a little dubious. i'm no expert but it should be able to go at a normal speed if it was 'sound'
  7. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Hi Alan de Enfield Thanks for that message. I think i've found a similar boat. it's a 30ft narrowboat, unknown manufacturer, 1977, cruiser stern. needs blacking - done 3 years ago. has a solar panel, and inverter. calorifier, space to install a shower - (started but not finished). good burner. full size gas hob and oven, sink. no fridge. it's small but it's really well laid out with a double bed partly going underneath the bow and a sitting room as you walk in that can convert to a small double for guests. The engine is a bmc 1.5 water coolled and is said to be sound, but doesn't go fast - smoke comes out on high revs i was told! I had a brief look at the last survey done 3 years ago and there appears to be a bit of 'hungry horse' effect where plates bend in on the sides but it says 'not affecting the integrity of the structure at this stage'! The base plate has been overplated from 22ft to the bow extending full width, also 6-14ft, and a small bow plate welded under stern peice. So it's had a fair bit of overplating! . It's a nice little boat inside. I wondered if based on this info people here could help me decide how much they think this boat is worth. and any further questions i should be asking/checks to do. I'll of course be getting a survey, before actually buying. What would be the advice re. the overplating? My budget is pretty low so I'm not sure if a hull that;s sound with no plating is possible on this budget. Hope to get some advice . Thanks. Sadie
  8. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    yes - these things are a must. I will keep on looking. My budget is pretty low though 13k max right now. I'm not entirely sure it's possible to get a decent boat for this cash. What's your thoughts on this. Yes. I think it's going to work out pretty expensive for the owner once that happens. Maybe a van would be a better option for now. with my lowish budget, low for a boat, for pretty good for a van budget. hmmmm.
  9. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Hello. Thanks to everyone who have given advice on here. I did offer 3k with the intention of going higher, but it seems it really has alot of sentimental value for him and he wants to hang on to it to give to his daughter one day! It seems everyone you speak to has a different opinion about how much it's worth, apparently it was bought for 14k 7 years ago, and apparently worth more than that now!!! (i'm not sure about this.....) I was thinking about offering a good chunk of cash 7.5k so it was a more tempting offer but this boat just doesn't feel right to take on as the engine is really buggered (very much so according to guy i spoke to today who is helping to fix floor for the owner), plus the neglect of the hull, and the mooring fees are not fixed and will be going up in the future (perhaps double is the thoughts on this). I think I may have dodged a bullet here. Having a working engine has got to be a high priority. He's getting it out of the water and having it blacked and getting a survey done in the summer - so that might clear things up a bit more on how much it's worth, and whether he wants to keep ploughing money into it. However, I think I've changed my mind now and I don't want it.
  10. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    I hope so. I think it's definitely a possibility as its quite unsustainable for him. He's moved quite far away and can't be here to sort things. The money upfront could be a relief for him as it would take him ages to make that in rent, minus the other maintenance costs. But we'll see. Ill keep you posted
  11. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    I want to get the floor up, get all that rotten wood out, replace laminate. Build shelves to improve storage, make a fold up bed with a table and paint it all. I guess id spend a bit of money making it nice but if I'm gonna be on it a couple of years while saving I want it useable. Main thing is storage space and no where to sit if I invite people over. Apart from bed. Really want a table. Yes ok. Ill keep you posted. Thanks again, really appreciate all the advice on here
  12. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    I think offer 3k, go up to 4k. I may do informal friend survey. Definitely have to get it out for blacking anyway. Thanks for the advice
  13. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    Thanks. The engine is a bmc. Neighbour reckons we can get it going and have a fiddle around. It could just be something simple. I imagine owner just hasn't tried. I don't have damp feet amazingly enough. Although winter has been pretty tough and I've had a bad chest, no doubt from all the damp and rot
  14. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    No my rent isn't cheap enough to justify the work I put in. I'm not putting in money at present just time and organizing the work and coordinating things. I doubt anyone else would pay this. I guess I won't know how long,til a survey is done. I might just get my friend along to measure hull thickness with his machine as don't want to spend too much. Definitely needs blacking though. This could have caused issues if left 7 years.
  15. SadieF

    Cost of a 1979 33ft Springer

    apologies. bad wording. what i mean is he rents it, and his name is on the papers. but doesn't have rights to it if the boat isn't there. It's all quite informal down here anyway and is by agreement with the farmer and the rest of community.
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