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22 minutes ago, M_JG said:
How on earth can you say somebody is not talking about something when they clearly have told you they are.? Its not for you to tell me what I am talking about
Bizzare in the extreme, but then........
There will be times when he gets locked through if one of the tankers is about, and the timing is right we sometimes were.
You are just so quick to try and trip others up you end up doing it to youself.
I noticed you havent acknowledged your earlier error about Pollington being the only lock where there would have been room to share.
Tut tut.
Anyway Ive broken my rule of not responding to your tripe so I will leave it there.
Sorry I missed you'd added this.
Yes that is The Boat Inn.
Aptly named (or perhaps not) as it has flooded in the past but there have been some flood alleviation works along there since we were last there.
Yes Bulholme lock with a little gravel barge, as I said they stopped running years ago. The info your giving is from 2015, not current just highlighted with the little gravel barge, when did they stop running? He’s asking about getting to Sprotborough and the S&SY so generally not the area your talking about.
If @IanD wants to take advice from 8 years ago and from someone who never got past Sprotborough so be it, but I doubt he will, as he wants to know what’s happening today on the canal he’s travelling on, not what it was like 8 year ago. -
Just now, M_JG said:
Which of course I didnt say you could. Have the locks shrunk in the intervening years?
I was talking in general about the locks Ian will pass through to get to his ultimate destination, including the one I pictured us sharing a commercial gravel barge with, (which wasnt Pollington).
Your not talking in general the locks @IanD will be passing through with regards to sharing locks, because most of them he cannot share, I’m talking Tanker size, the little gravel barges stopped running years ago.
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1 hour ago, M_JG said:
Read what I wrote before trying to pull me up.
I said where there is room. Like in the lock where I pictured us sharing with one of the gravel barges, Which isnt Pollington BTW.
Obviously now that the shorter gravel barges have stopped running this is going to be impossible, however the lockies would always lock a leaisure boat through if the timings were right and a commercial was in the vicinity,
The locky had just sent us through here at Sprotborough. When we came out we realised he had done this because Humber Princess was coming the other way.
Your information as you say is from 2015, so not really up to date, as I say you can’t share with the Humber Pride on the S&SY.
1 hour ago, IanD said:Thanks, that's really helpful. Will be aiming to enter the top lock at 9am, most likely travelling alone (i.e. no other boat, but with four of us on board), aiming for Sprotbrough.
Do we need to contact the volunteers or will they just be there? (this will be towards the end of June)
You don’t need to book anything with the locks past the Tinsley flight, the volunteer lock keepers are normally around, all depends on the day and if they want to volunteer.
If there’s a boat going down on the same day you will be sharing, as the water is back pumped to keep the length watered, so you share up and down.
7 minutes ago, M_JG said:We always opted for the otherside anyway for the peace and quiet.
There is/was a small car park and seating just there on the pub side so if the weather was nice you would get a few comings and goings, car doors slamming etc.
You’ll be better off opposite the pub, as your getting the Chav “Too fast Too furious” going down to the car park at night, playing the boom music out of their cars, so better off opposite👍🚗
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2 hours ago, IanD said:
Do you mean the locks are deliberately (automatically?) refilled after a boat going down? I thought they were boater operated?
Once your down, in most cases the top sluices are set automatically to open after a minute or so, so filling the lock. The locks are normally set for you when going from Sheffield. The following locks may have volunteers on. Aldwick, Mexborough top, Mexborough low, Long Sandel and Syke house, but obviously this is down to the volunteers, but these are the volunteer operated ones.
You can make good time going down to Doncaster, especially if there are two boats as you can “pepper pot” alternative locks.
2 hours ago, M_JG said:They are boater operated - unless of course a commercial boat is passing and you happen to catch a locky at one and there is room to share.
You can’t share as the commercial’s take the whole lock, the only one you can share Is Pollington when the lock keeper uses the full length chamber.
Photo taken from the lock gates, absolutely no chance of sharing, especially when she powers out.
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1 hour ago, IanD said:
Took your advice about going further/faster on the first couple of days, and preferred stopping places. Plan now looks like this:
Day 0 : drive up, load boat up ready to go in morning -- will have done a shakedown cruise a couple of weeks earlier
Day 1 : Sprotbrough Bridge (The Boat)
Day 2 : Ferrybridge Flood Lock No. 11 (Golden Lion)
Day 3 : Navigation Inn, Calder Grove
Day 4 : Brighouse Lower Basin VM (Market Tavern)
Day 5 : Hebden Bridge Wharf
Day 6 : West Summit Lock 37 (Summit Inn) -- moor just above lock
Day 7 : Rose of Lancaster (near aqueduct)
Day 8 : Castlefield ("tuning fork" arms -- or corner mooring if free, wasn't last time)
Day 9 : Willow Green Br 208 (Leigh Arms)
Day 10 : Park Farm Marina (short day), drive home
As you say, if there are any problems we can always take more time, but these days fit in with what we found last time we did the Rochdale -- the last 3 stops are identical.
Day 2: Steam Packet Knottingly
I stop at both, but prefer this one, very friendly owner and great high street for food after a pint. Chinese, fish’n’chip shop, Indian, pizza place and the star Ibby’s Kebab shop, the whole selection, Ibby’s kebabs, best I’ve ever had.
Moorings just outside, never had and trouble there.
https://steampacket-inn-wakefield.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral-
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11 hours ago, matty40s said:
You look at what they have achieved already, do a google maps sat view, and you might alter your stance.
The Stroudwater was in the same place less than 10 years ago, and should be reconnected within 2.
Buy a brick, I am sure someone will be along shortly to offer some for sale.
Not by 2027, the Norwood tunnel problem will take the time, locks, boat lift, how’s it going to work? That will be the interesting bit.
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5 hours ago, noddyboater said:
Like dredging the rest of the navigable length for instance?
The bit in the article that says the Trust will be responsible for dredging and graffiti removal made me laugh.
Obviously CCT and not CaRT as they don’t do it now on their waterways as you hint at, never mind doing it on a council owned one.
Looks like this section will be taking a big slice of future CCT donations with the dredging and graffiti removal.
6 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:The canal, which was completed in 1777, runs west to east between the River Rother at Chesterfield in Derbyshire and the River Trent at West Stockwith in Nottinghamshire. Chesterfield Canal Trust is the main driver of the restoration scheme, aiming to restore nine miles of the route from the Staveley Town Basin in Derbyshire to Kiveton Park in South Yorkshire by 2027.
And Pigs will fly 🐷🐷
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2 hours ago, IanD said:
Wow, it took you that long? 😉
He’ll have his first scratch within the first few hours, Very little offside tree pruning getting done, one from last July, who knows what this year will be like?
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@IanD Looking at what’s been happening with Pennine routes over the last couple of years, I wouldn’t bother and I’d plan for the Trent route, that’s the way everyone goes South from Sheffield. Bigger waterways, electric locks, bigger Marina’s should you need to leave the boat, better resources than the North. I would just concentrate on getting my boat to my Home mooring and do the HNC/Roch/L&L as holidays at a more relaxed pace once the boat is tried and tested.
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Not that hard. You can easily do Doncaster in a day, especially with crew, The slowest bit is from Sheffield to Rotherham (the flight and manual old locks) once past there all big electric, all normally self filling so ready for you. Wide canals and rivers so no crawling past Cmoorers on tickover for hours at a time, you can be at Doncaster for 5pm if all goes to plan and you start down the flight normal time 9am. Light nights and warm weather I would be moving, as once on the HNC and that way, who knows what delays you might have with stoppages/water levels???
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@IanD Day 1: you can get to Doncaster no problem should be there @6pm, City centre mooring, couple of minutes walk to City centre. Or push on to Barmby Dunn, good food, fish’n’chips, Chinese, Pizza/Kebab.
Day 2: Doncaster to Stanley Ferry.
Obviously all depends how much you want to do in a day, with your 11 day plan, you might be better doing longer days on the big canals with electric locks, as your more likely to hit delays/issues once your further west past Stanley Ferry. Remember your C&H spike.
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No, the one about a factory having to employ their first coloured person and what happens in the factory canteen, when he asks for a Bacon sandwich and ends up with a can of Fosters between two slices of bread.
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Maybe more batteries, bigger heavier batteries added, maybe originally ballasted with little diesel in tank and full water tank???????
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3 hours ago, Higgs said:
Would Egyptians actually say, de Nile.
Reminds me of a school joke, using - defence, defeat and detail.
Reminds me of the one about Bacon🐷 and Beer Can🍺 If you know the joke👨🏿👨🏿
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2 hours ago, peterboat said:
No you can't, I have 5 Kw on my widebeam and that includes the wheelhouse, the boat would be unusable, handrails blocked centre rope covered and still not enough
Seams to be the fashion with the new electric boats, roof completely covered with flexi panels, no where to walk if needed to get on, unless you walk on them and some with no centre line eyes, for the sake of one more panel. Just shows how much these new buyers have worked a boat or even the boat fitters.
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I think she is just a typical young boater who wants to be known on social media, there’s lots out there who lead a different life to what they portray on the internet. Just what the young kids chase.
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I would say your decision will be either a full roof of good solar panels and less batteries or less panels and more/better batteries. As said above you’ll not be able to survive solely on solar all year. Maybe try a Marina or a mooring with elect hook-up for winter. You could spend your budget just on batteries.
Your best to really work out how much power you’ll actually need, you may not need as much as you think? I only use my washing machine when I’m moving/running the engine.
This guy does a lot on boats and gives good advice on boat systems and requirements.
https://fourcountiesmarineservices.com/home/
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6 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:
The implication to me was that they were CC and not moving much, or living on leisure moorings of some kind. Also that they were pretty broke and, like everyone who is skint and scraping by, finding the surge in the cost of living hard to cope with. I don't think that's really wanting to have and eat cake, probably just wanting to eat.
I'm not sure that a lot of people on here know what it's like to simply not have enough money to get through a week, but there are a lot of people currently in that position and, having spent quite a lot of time there, I sympathise. You try to live to your means, but when costs double, what you've got doesn't.
Maybe like a lot of people who have moved onto the canals over the last few years, they may of thought it’s cheap living. We all know it can be a cheap way of life but it’s not cheap living anymore on a boat, especially if you haven’t got finances in the first place, and it’s only going to get more expensive to be on the canals in the upcoming years
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25 minutes ago, dmr said:
The accepted defibnition of a CMer who is somebody who has a CC "licence" but stays mostly in one or two spots. Are there any CM'ers in Hebden???? There are many boats on proper long term moorings, and I believe that some pay council tax, though some don't, which is odd. It is of course possible that the mooring owner is paying tax via a bussiness rate?
If the ones in the article are paying council tax then they should have no problems claiming it as it should be a residential mooring. But it looks like they can’t claim it, so what moorings are they on, one’s in the town centre, the others say just outside the centre? This is one of the arguments on here, they are probably using services provided by local council without paying Council tax and want the same fuel allowance as people paying Council tax in the town.
The allowance works out at less then £8 a week, I would say if people need £8 or it makes a massive difference, then how are they going to cope with increases in the future with License and food? I’m not rich but neither poor, but an extra £8 a week would make little difference and if it did I would be living a miserable life on the canal.
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On 02/03/2023 at 20:50, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Yes. On a residential mooring for which council tax is being paid and an official postal address, so about the most likely to get over the hurdles.
I take it the ones living residential unofficially on the leisure moorings aren’t happy and it’s their main discussion point over a coffee😂
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The ones that seam to be complaining they’re not getting the allowance are the likes highlighted in the article, basically continuous Moorers, like these living in Hebden bridge and working local. Leisure Livaboards in Marina’s know they can’t claim it as they’re not on a residential berth. So they aren’t moaning to the press like @LadyG and the likes.
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3 minutes ago, mightyslay3r said:
i've defo come to the right place then 😮😁😃😶🌫️🫥😜😝😮💨🤪🤪🥸🤡
would it be feasible to add solids dilution fluid to said tank via the loo so has to turn it all fluid-ish? for easier pump out....
Why are you worrying about it so much?
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47 minutes ago, wandering snail said:
Have a look at https://fikkers.nl/
Some nice boats on there and expensive when you add the costs to bring over and vat 😱
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2 hours ago, Orwellian said:
This was always a ridiculous practice. So it's ok for a newbie leisure boater to use the big automated locks on the A&C but not a crew member on a commercial vessel.
CaRT need to be more flexible with the running of the carriers, both the oil and the gravel, they must be allowed to run when they can and need/want to. Extending their hours in the lighter Summer months if needed and taking the tide times into consideration for the tanker. Hopefully it can be a financial success for the carriers and hopefully everyone involved can work together with a sensible approach to make it so.
Realistic Cruising Times on the Huddersfield Narrow Canal
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Your talking 2015, not up to date info as @IanD is after.
Yes Sorry, but you know what he’s like. You have a few month to go, anything I pick up to get down the flight or anything you should know that’s relevant, I’ll let you know👍