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  1. In a nutshell the better the prep the better the finished job, same as everything. The vinyl is very thin so will show any imperfections underneath. But then again so does paint. If it’s not done in the rain then there’s no reason why moisture would be trapped underneath. I’ve never heard of a car being baked after it’s been wrapped? If it’s a tricky part of a vehicle then a heat gun is used to help form the vinyl but that’s it as far as I know. But having said that, perhaps it’s a new thing, there’s new products on the market every week it seems. Just bear in mind it’s NOT going to be like a paint finish, but it’s not going to take as long to do or cost as much either. My advice to anyone thinking about this would be to order a sample of wrapping vinyl about A4 and stick it on your boat.
  2. Thanks for that?? Are they pretty much the same?
  3. Hi, can anyone recommend the best book or map of the canals. Ideally one showing all the moorings and winding holes etc.
  4. My girlfriend and I have been discussing buying a boat for a while, we would like to stay in a few to get the feel for different sizes and layouts. Does anyone know of any boats that are available this weekend? I live in Rickmansworth but am prepared to travel upto 2 hours. I appreciate this is massively short notice! Thanks Jamie
  5. Hi, thanks for your concern. But I’ve got to start somewhere. My plan is to look at plenty of boats to get a feel for them. Once I have my shortlist I’ll do my best to rent something similar. However at some point I’ll have to take the plunge, there’s no way I can possibly know if something will start to bug me later on, but to be fair the same could be said about, a house, a car, a bike, children! etc. Especially considering those with years of experience can still get it wrong.
  6. That’s exactly what I want to do, in my mind I want a reverse layout cruiser. But I’ve been on so few boats I need to have a proper look around.
  7. Can anyone recommend a boat brokerage where they have a large stock of boats. Ideally in the South
  8. Potentially, but you could easily repair it yourself with a piece of vinyl. When seagoing boats on that they are given a “repair Kit” which basically consists of spare vinyl. It’s possible but I would need to see pictures to give you a proper opinion.
  9. I wanted to work on a couple first to get some pics then approach the builders.
  10. Thanks for your support Parahandy....In an ideal world I won’t be doing any prep! I’m the graphics man so I only want to do the graphics. Without having done a Narrowboat it’s going to be a learning curve for me. This is why I’m offering to do some boats for free so I can see what the issues are and what end result can be achieved.
  11. Hi Stuart it’s hard to give an accurate figure as it would depend on which type of vinyl was used as the prices vary greatly. Also the amount of prep I needed to do would obviously be a factor. But as a ball park I would estimate it to be at least 50% less than painting.
  12. Hi Parahandy, just to address the issues you’ve raised. The comparison I made to super cars was one of protection. For example if you had a brand new paint job on your boat you could choose to protect it against UV and scratches (to a certain degree) with a paint protection film. I did also point out that the vinyl finish would only be as good as the surface underneath. Although If you had a faded boat with paint blistering, all you would need to do is scrape off loose paint, fill any hollows, sand it smooth then vinyl over it. Way less prep than painting. Obviously it will never be the same as painting a boat, but then it’s nowhere near as expensive as painting a boat. But to be fair Betamax was always better than VHS, but no one had a Betamax because it was too expensive! I would like to have seen the green boat you used as an example, because if the boat was not prepped correctly or the vinyl not applied professionally it would have obviously looked bad. Also you said it has now “long gone” which implies you saw this a good while ago, vinyl manufacturing technology has come a long way in recent years, so again the boat you saw very likely isn’t a good representation of what can be achieved when it’s done correctly. I actually could! A bit like this.
  13. I did this boat for the Talisker Whiskey Atlantic Challange. Nothing like a steel Narrowboat but a boat never the less!
  14. They will be in the brochure as “natural features” and we don’t charge extra for them! If you are doing it outside you can almost guarantee to get some insects and encapsulated forever.
  15. The best thing to do is remove all external fixtures, Then refit them once the vinyl has been fitted. If it’s something that cannot be removed then it would need to be cut around. This is why you get a professional vinyl fitter to install it for you! As previously mentioned a vinyl patch could be put over any damage quite easily by anybody. There is a clear vinyl product available now that can be fitted over the top of any existing finish. This has the ability to “heal” any surface scratches using hot air, it will also protect from fading due to ultraviolet light. Any rust would need rubbing down and treating, however even if the boat was patchy with primer and paint it would have no effect to the finish of the vinyl as long as the surface underneath was smooth. The vinyl is very thin so like someone pointed out, The better the surface underneath the better the finish. Obviously Matt vinyl will hide lumps and bumps much better than gloss.
  16. Would anyone like their boat wrapped? I have been wrapping cars and vans and working in the sign industry for years. Even though I have seen a few on the Internet I live alongside the grand union and I never see any wrapped boats cruising past. It’s gaining popularity with sea going craft but talking to narrowboat owners, even though vinyl is cheaper than painting there are concerns that it isn’t as robust. Obviously it is incredibly easy to stick a new piece of vinyl over any damage and it is virtually invisible however it isn’t ideal. But there are some fantastic products available now, that can “heal” when you warm up the scratches with a hairdryer. They are also impervious to ultraviolet so will keep the colours vivid and stop them from fading. These products have been developed to protect supercars and their incredibly expensive paint jobs so in my opinion would do equally well protecting a narrowboat. To put my theory to the test I would be prepared to work for free and get the vinyl at cost if someone is prepared to let me wrap all (or part) or their boat. If I am wrong the vinyl can be removed leaving no damage to existing paint.
  17. http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=332627 I like this boat but it appears that the bed is at the back, seems strange that you would come in from the rain straight into your bedroom. But should I not be too worried about layout as it's changeable?
  18. I'm gonna post some more links for opinions, that should do it!
  19. Thanks for the info, that's what's do great about this site! At the moment I'm going pretty much on layout I don't know a respected builder from a bad one. There are so many variables and it's not like you get a buyers price guide like when buying a car.
  20. I can't get my head around the price v age of narrow boats, the age of a boat doesn't always seem relative to the price? As far as I'm aware everyone advertises their boat way overpriced because they expect to be knocked down. Sorry to put you on the spot but how much do you think this boat is worth?
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