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Seams a little cheap whats wrong with it?

We did look at monnow. Think that is too far gone for me to convince the wife all though if i could i would happly buy both monnow and umea. Sorry my brain was on tco and finger writing toc

Chance 2 is indeed up for sale. The history of this boat is very sketchy as lots have said. Is there a semi hard conclusion as to what this boat is. If it is a chance and hunt boat is it number 2? Ive looked at the list of boats and there are 2 number 2s. If it was number 2 it was a cabined wooden open boat. Then it never went to toc as some have said. Anyways its a boat im intrested in although needs lots of work. But want to be sure or almost sure on the history. I know about the engine ect. The plan would be to get it back to glory but want to be sure of the history as said. If was a diffrent c&h boat which? I know its been spoke about as said im intrested in the boat but cant justify convincing the wife and doing the work if there is going to be a lot of dowt once done if its the actual boat as ill just be dowting it myself for ever. And i want to get a boat that can be saved and enjoyed unless someone can convince umea to be sold as a toc or fmc with bolinder is the only motor ill ever buy. But chance 2 would make a lovely butty. others have said you can see where the tanks in chance 2 use to be this would then either make it a diffrent c&h boat or tco boat. Any ways any help would be good.

This is correct dane is just under 70foot we got down the first lock ok but second got in but couldnt open the gate by quite alot. We then went in backwards so the bow was over the cill with all fenders up and tiller bar off we needed about 1 inch if we had the time im sure we could have lost some weight like the decks and ballast in the hold but this would have beem hours so we gave up un willingly.

If chance 2 is h&c number 2 what toc boat would it be or is this sort of info that well never know which it was. As there can only be 2-4 toc buttys left. Gifford, monnow, pos chance 2 and the bow of one is about i think.

You can still do it but you have to say you want unlimited tethering as its now tje one plan with tethering. I use my phone as internet rather than broadband. Its 3-4£ extra on top line phones.

Hi tim dont know how to load pics but if able to pm me an email address ill send you one unless some one can tell me how to upload.

In my opinion the tital should go to ross icebreaker Reason is the oldest original narrowboat. Never been changed from a horse /tractor icebreaker. This to me makes it the oldest. As yes there maybe an older boat out there but they have been changed.

Would love to have that as a setup.

Thought this was worth adding to the list of boats with bolinders The Yavari in Peru Has a 4 cylinder e typer 1914 bolinder in biggest of its type its 320bhp still working!

I dowt well ever know now really.

Hi tim not a problem didnt get chance to take a photo but I will try on friday if we go past. But yes ill try and add both up.

Thanks for update. This is where I was getting confused. As not by going on number as I dont have a list but on the top of the injector says peacock fm&c. Now I know the part can be swapped as for instance stour has crane fm&c and I know dane dosnt say dane on and I know others are different. I wonder if parts were swapped rather than the engine? Is there any other ways of finding out apart from finding briar engine. Thanks for the info pete. And again sorry if there was any offence given.

I could never understand how johnny mannaged to get his hands round the speed wheel on dane. Wasnt he the only one who could kick start 30 in Worcester?

Hi tim yes is james pollock sons &co ltd london

Off the top of my head I know it says the engine suppliers name and that if my memory is right its above the door from the cabin to engine room on the engine room side. I dont have a pic of it but will take one if remember tomorrow. Ill get back to you on that tim. I think the peacock name plate was the left side

No but if you mean the peacock sign I believe thats at Swindon museum. Not that I have seen it but at the same time I didnt know it was there to look have to look next time im at Swindon. Im sure ill go at some point with my grandad. Although it is far for him to go.

I know there is another plaque on the roof but that just says the engine suppliers think off top of head was john something but not 100% off top of head can check tomorrow but I know it only says bolinder engine suppliers. Yes the plaque is on the block of the engine not sure how to upload pics otherwise would add it. That that is all the info on it. Only other numbers on engine are on fuel pump but thats to do with the pecker spacing. The plaque is in the same place as danes when I last saw her and looks the same. Not moved like the ones on jaguar and such.

I know there not boats but there are bolinders in gloucester Waterways Museum, london museum and at least 3 in Ellesmere port museum all not in boats also there is a big double one in a pumping station saw on youtube.

Just found my pic of the bolinder plaque says Bolinder engine 26258 15bhp max rpm 450 Made in Stockholm. Im asuming the engine number is the serial number as its sim to the other bolinder numbers I have.

Thats one giant bike wheel for a borrower pikey to come back for.

Lernt something new. As said I knew they came apart but never had to nore did dad even when we cleaned ours or had to repair it the block was never lifted from the bed. I just assumed the only way was threw the roof.

Please dont get me wrong I wasnt questioning the info I was just curious as from my little understanding as to how the engine was changed thats all. I dont have any of the facts so can only go on the info I can see (e.g. no hole in the roof) I never got chance to meet john as I was only young. Im just trying to peace all the info so I can get it right and then when others ask im not giving people wrong info. As im planning on being envolved with the boat for a long time and intended doing a write up about the boat for people to read I want to be 100% on my information. If you would be willing can you please inform me of the 1934 bolinder number and what boat the replacement came from I do have the current bolinder number. There was ment to be no offence given in my last post I just know how heavy bolinders are a am confused as to the effort it must have taken. If there was offence taken then my apologies. James margrave Ive seen my dad struggle to take the piston out wouldnt like to even attempt the block as I have removed the clutch on one and that wasnt exactly light.I know they came apart just didnt realise it could all come out the door being man handled.

Dont wanna sound thick or stupid but to get a bolinder out wouldnt you need a crane as peacocks cabin is original with only the outer cabin skin replaced im confused how did he get it out as there is no holes in the roof? I maybe getting info miles wrong but if he went to the effort of trying to keep the engine in when he bought the boat I cant see him just replacing it. As so much is still there. Just a question just trying to get info right.

Also if running warm make sure you check for crud under the rings as this makes the ring stick in the bore and puts more pressure and heat lower down.