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  1. 6 hours ago, magpie patrick said:

    To describe what I was looking for is difficult, but roughly "locks built in the modern era to a traditional design using modern materials and techniques" - the main emphasis is "modern era", at least in part to compare with any locks that might be built in the near future - "here's one we did earlier" kind of thing

    Thurlwood Steel as an anti-example of one built not to a traditional design that was plagued with problems and scrapped as a result?

  2. 1 hour ago, Barneyp said:

    It's not discrimination if applied equally, so no single sex groups is not discrimination, both sexs are being treated equally. 

    I am not a lawyer, but I’m not sure that would wash. Any one of the (all male) party (or even all but one) could argue that, had they been female, the hire would been allowed, and therefore they were being discriminated against on the ground of their sex.


    Given that gender reassignment is also a protected characteristic, it would be a brave company that waded into that territory.


    As it happens, the party of chaps we met on a pair of ABC boats on the Bridgewater & T&M a couple of weeks ago couldn’t have been nicer, even the ones dressed as pirates.

  3. 4 hours ago, Puffling said:

    Today I picked up a dead blue tit fledgeling in Mercia Marina. Earlier, I'd recorded a pair of mallards swimming with five ducklings, when the day before I had counted them with seven.

    It’s sad, but if they all survived we’d be knee deep in blue tits by now. The great tits have occupied one end of our “sparrow terrace” (it’s had great tits, blue tits and bumble bee nests over the years, but never any sparrows), and the house martins arrived back a few days ago and are busy making a mess of next door’s walls.

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  4. 8 hours ago, Timx said:

    Two weeks to do four counties, then two weeks to Liverpool and back,

    Well that accounts for 4 of their 3 weeks…

    25 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said:

    Hi Saskia,


    You haven't said why your husband didn't like Manchester. Was it the locks?  The 'scenery'? The people?  The mooring locations?


    As others have said, cruising through Birmingham is quite different to Manchester.  You want to avoid Farmer's Bridge and Aston, but your alternative takes you down Delph and Stourbridge flights anyway.

    If they want to do the BCLM then they’re going up and down via the Wolverhampton level one way or another.

  5. How about…. 4 Counties clockwise as far as Autherley, on a bit to Aldersley, up the Wolverhampton 21, BCLM, Netherton Tunnel (either nip down Factory, or the long way round Old Main Line/Brades), Delph, down to Stourton, back up to Autherley and continue the 4 Counties. Potential side quests to Hawne Basin, Stourbridge and even Titford if time allows?


    That said, T&M down to Fradley, into Birmingham via Aston/Farmers Bridge and out again via BCLM/Wolverhampton and back on the ring at Autherley is a possibility. I’d rather do Aston/Farmers Bridge/middle of Birmingham than go through Manchester again.

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  6. Had the alternator belt break once in Barnton tunnel, fortunately close to the exit. Pushed out with the pole and changed the belt. Came through Harecastle late one day and moored at the end for the night. The following morning the gearbox packed up just before Longport Wharf!

  7. 51 minutes ago, junior said:

    Enjoy your trip, it's a lovely stretch of canal. If you have time in your schedule I'd definitely recommend going down/up the Anderton Lift for the experience and a short trip on the River Weaver. 

    And if not, the Runcorn arm is a surprisingly pleasant diversion.

  8. 1 hour ago, Arthur Marshall said:

    That's what I did with the turned lock. I just put the kettle and waited. Normally I'd have gone up and helped open gates.

    It’s amazing how many things suddenly need a few minutes immediate attention when one is no longer disposed to go and help out :D

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  9. 5 hours ago, alias said:

    Just curious - would water extinguishers survive sub zero temperatures if left aboard a winterised boat?

    The water mist units listed at Safelincs quote an operating temperature down to 0C, foam down to +5C. Both are marked “protect from frost”; you really wouldn’t want a an extinguisher pressurised at 12bar unexpectedly going pop!


    Of the available types, you could get to the BSS magic numbers with 3 x 2 litre 8A/55B foam extinguishers alone, but taking up a moderate amount of additional space versus powder. 

    Incidentally, has anyone fitted an automatic extinguisher in a cruiser stern engine bay? I had considered it, but the only option seems to be dry powder (the FE36 gas one has been discontinued) and the operating temperature is quoted as 79 ±5C. I know the calorifier which is also under there can regularly get to 70-75C-ish.

    8 hours ago, TNLI said:

    this is what I think the BSS Regs should be:

    Take it up with BSS office then! In the meantime you are free to have pretty much as many additional fire extinguishers of almost whatever type you like, as long as they include a minimum quantity that meet the BSS specified requirement 😎

  10. 3 minutes ago, TNLI said:

    NOTE – portable fire extinguishers manufactured prior to the introduction of EN 3 may not have fire ratings marked on the extinguisher. Such extinguishers maintained in good condition, properly certified and satisfying the navigation authority’s previous individual and total weight requirements are acceptable.


    I doubt if the BSS would reject 3 extinguishers that are far better than dry powder ones.

    I clicked the Safelincs link you provided and read the spec. They’re EN3 certified, and the 13A/21B fire rating for the big 6 litre is in the manufacturer’s data sheet. I also looked at the latest BSS doc, which is quite clear in the appendix that 5A/34B is the minimum acceptable rating for an individual extinguisher. The text you quote no longer appears in that form; the reference to the introduction of EN3 is replaced by “before 1980”. Whether they are “better” or not is immaterial; they don’t meet the specified criteria.

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  11. 2 hours ago, alias said:


    How many of these, and of what size, would you need to meet the BSS requirements (e.g. for boats over 35 feet, minimum 3 extinguishers each rated 5A/34B?).

    None of them - even the 6 litre is only 13A/21B, so in the eyes of the BSS doesn’t count as a fire extinguisher.

  12. Predictable… Have they had two boats staring each other down bow-to-bow in the middle yet?


    The daughter and I narrowly averted a hire boat cilling there once. We were milling around lock side waiting to start down, and observed the hire boat in the top lock starting to adopt a worrying downward slope. Dropped the upper intermediate paddles a bit sharpish, somewhat to the surprise of the chap who had raised them and was no longer paying attention. Fortunately it wasn’t too far gone.

  13. 3 hours ago, TandC said:

    Am I right in that point about that if you have a bubble-tester it negates the requirement for a Gas Safe inspector to still be able to achieve a BSSC?   

    Answering a slightly different question that you didn’t ask - my BSS Examiner advised that having a bubble tester with an instantaneous gas water heater was “not allowed”, and he would fail a boat so fitted if called upon to examine it. Something to do with the maximum rated throughput of the largest available bubble tester being insufficient for the throughput required by a gas water heater (possibly in conjunction with an oven and hob?). Or something along those lines, I’m a little hazy on the details as it was a couple of years ago, and the question only arose through a discussion on where to put the test point when I was revamping the galley.


    (I think the answer to the question you did ask is that a bubble tester would permit a non-Gas Safe registered BSS Examiner to carry out a soundness test on a boat which fell under the GSIUR regulations, such as a residential or hire boat (and some others). That Examiner would not be permitted to carry out a manometer test on such a boat. There’s more detail in the new checking procedures document on the BSS website.)

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