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I don't know if it is of interest to anyone reading this thread, as there seems to be some confusion whether "Taurus" should be named "Crater".
Way back in 1989 I was offered an un-converted Middle Woolwich butty named "Taurus" for sale at £5,500. I didn't purchase it but still have a copy of the sale particulars.
Depends which Taurus your referring to. The ex Midlands and coast Northwich built butty that's got an fmc style bow or the ex guccc Northwich butty both of which worked for the same hotel boat company. The guccc being ex crater and the Midlands and coast was also named turtle.
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Deposit taken on Ling
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I think it was put in the pontoon as a way of keeping it afloat. It used to be on the canal section of Crockers adjacent to the flood gates. Sad to see it go.
Was in an article in waterways world some years ago with the pan breasted up.
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I belive he passed away and I can't recall the name but she isn't Ohio.I'd love to think that was what left of Ohio, but we're pretty sure shes long gone :-( (she was cut in two on the erewash canal, this I last saw in the water near Shardlow).
seeing as this is now for sale I guess the old boy has been forced in to land base accomendation, or worse :-( shame has he had this from the year dot!
Jay
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Not sure if it's already been noted but Facebook has just advised me that Bantock Butty Equus is for sale:
http://thesalespontoon.co.uk/For_sale/641/-built-fully-fitted-50ft-narrowboat-for-sale-London
Tim
It has been mentioned a couple of times due to good history and a price drop could be the oldest boat on the system.
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Presumably why the advert otherwise glosses over this and concentrates almost entirely on internal fit out?
It also has to a competitor for one of the least useful outside photos ever put in this kind of advert!
Yes at 7ft 4 I belive she's abit wide and had trouble getting through Glascote locks
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I think its elum as it is a way of pronouncing "helm" AFAIK
May be wrong
CAM is a very nice boat but £60k is an awful lot of money for it IMO
(Eta just noticed it is actually asking £69k
)Isn't the motor conversation recent as im sure last time was for sale it didn't have an engine.
I agree, it's a lovely fit out inside.
I'm interested in what they have done with the underside of the 'blue tops' at the front. Looks like they have been painted or sprayed with something to give a nice clean white finish. Anybody got any ideas what they might have used?
I've looked at a couple of buttys recently that have had basic sympathetic undercloth conversations done and been impressed with the results.
I also looked in a 'blue top' and noted that the headroom was nowhere near that of an 'under cloths' conversion and wondered what could be done to keep the blue top look but to increase the headroom to enable an adult to stand up. Anyone got any ideas or suggestions? Has anything like this been done in the past?
If your brave increase the depth of footings so holds deeper
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Boats can carry there history forward as proven by Barnet which also had her BW cabin removed by an organisation that gave up the project and handed her back to be before finishing by the organisation you were with Laurence.as for orginality the bow deck had been altered bottom replaced in 6mm plus BW cabin put on and rear deck (which remains) so all that's changed is bow deck to bow cabin cabin replaced with a good looking replica ( unlike some ) bottom now 10 mm and the extra work of footings to bottom guard. Not however the knees haven't been cut to fit the footings. Everything that has been done is simple to undo as the BW cabin remains in existence and the BW chequer plate is under the new gunnels. Seing how this work was scheduled to be undertaken as part of the original tender from BW using your drawings and guidance I don't see why you keep banging on about lost history.
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When I first saw her she still had wooden gunnels, a few years later BW had done something to the gunnels including taking the wood off. Memory suggests she had some sort of cut out towards the fore end potentially to hold a cable reel, whatever it was it altered the sweeping lines of the gunnel.
Having checked my photos it wasnt a chunk out as much as a botched alteration to them, you can see the angle doesnt sweep up it runs straight and then comes off at an angle.
Ah yes they welded chequer plate to the angle irons (still there under the new) and had to make the last bit up as the deck beam was already metal I belive. The cants were shocking as we're leaking and rotting from inside out.
Any photos of her back then to pass on for her history?
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Nothing swims like a fish class thoBoth boats were at a fair speed as the picture was taken. It is a credit to both Yarwoods and to Harland and Wolff just how little these boats disturb the water than a much less well shaped modern leisure boat, (even the expensive ones!).
I love Ling, have done since she was the maintenance boat on the S&W, even when BW chopped that chunk out of her gunnels in the early 90's for some reason only they know about she was still gorgeous. All the work done since has only improved her imo, price is reasonable too for a josher motor. If I win the lottery friday I'll be in touch.
Chunk out the gunnels? This is new on me..
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Shh stop!
So you don't want to know about door in bow cabin so access into a theoretical undercloth conversation would be available.
This said she has never been converted
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My problem is that I want a converted boat like Ling. In fact - ling would be perfect with an undersheet conversion. However, I could not agree with the conversion of a boat such as Ling.
Steel gunwales too so easy to weld a watertight top on ;-)
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I'd have to take the offer of the HR3 up instead of the fuel guzzling noise box, but even the Lister is OTT.
Considering I didn't completely fill the tank in April 2014 and it's only just ran out I don't think it is that bad on fuel.
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Yes, it seems odd that the asking price is now apparently a lot higher than it was!
I guess it's so they get what they wanted after brokers fees
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I passed it 2 mins ago, it is on the river weaver as the ad says. It has been on this thread a while back as it's been for sale since at keast Lymm historic transport day where the owners told me it was FS. They had their own privite ad on AD that was lacking any photos if i recall. I also think it's had a price drop since then too.
It's a beautiful boat, the owners are a lovely couple and it's been maticulasly looked after.
Was listed at £40000 if id of seen the inside I'd of probably contacted them see if a deal could be done
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Definitely a Saltley bow and had a bow cabin as the bulkhead angles while removed are still evident. More importantly the hull is almost the complete boat the composite bottom goes all the way to the stearn and the swim has been made from the original butty stearn. The top half cut of and the uxter plate and counter formed also the stem post cut off and a section welded in to create and adequate width for stearn gear. Phil tells me the boat is tight in locks like Hillmorton so I guess she is 72 or maybe more foot long. This must make her easyer to identify as all the converted butties that I know of were cut and counter added to one or both parts not almost all the hull kept.
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There will be hopefully be some bulkhead angle ironwork if your still on the Ashby I can take a look if you like.
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Yep w type has centrifugal governed pump and reverse gearbox. The one in Ling was built 1922
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I have seen old gas bottles used with success. Ling has 4 inch steam pipe going into a 5 inch exhaust. Only 4 ltr
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P.S. Will be back on Reg at Braunston on Friday night, are you still around? Come and have a look
and a beer!
May well do depends on many things most important how my fiance is doing that day regards weather and general feeling being 8 months pregnant but ling is just outside braunston facing towards Sutton stop
Hmmm that linki takes me to
Mike J.E.W's
profile page...
Yes Reg is tolerable, almost normal on tickover, but at cruising speed...
Put it this way, peeps said they could hear me coming for 20 minutes before I passed!
Well the night jason took ling we jumped off in Nuneaton and could hear her for 20 mins after and that's through the houses, flats, yobs, cars, motor bikes and all with Jason taking his time. Most I been told is 40 mins from when first heard
Hmmm that linki takes me to
Mike J.E.W's
profile page...
Yes Reg is tolerable, almost normal on tickover, but at cruising speed...
Put it this way, peeps said they could hear me coming for 20 minutes before I passed!
If you serch ling on here its the second post after this thread
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Nope, not seen the thread. Gotta link?
Reginald is INSANELY loud. I wear good quality earplugs and still my tinitus rages tonight...
http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showuser=20258
Reginald seemed quieter than ling on tick over hence my holding my ear as struggling to her over the bolinder
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Thanks for the link Ray but those are for 2" exhausts!
The exhausts on Reg and Ling are 4"-5" in diameter so I doubt those baffles would have much effect!
In addition being two strokes it is important not to restrict the exhaust path or the scavenging effect the two-stroke cycle relies upon will, I suspect, be affected adversely.
I'd say these would either be blown 20 feet in the air or reduced to scrap very quickly
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Great vids, many thanks!
The best one is the one of REGINALD, obviously....
Did you juxtapose it with LING deliberately, being such similar engines? I was surprised how much quieter LING's early Bolinder was compared to REGINALD's Skandia. I never got to talk to the owner of LING about it, disappointingly.
Quiet??? You not seen the posts about Ling and night boating and the fact I should fit a silencer or is one being sarcastic. I agree as I'd of liked a proper look at your engine.
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quite abit of over plating
In my opinion the bit that's been cut out where the prop shat comes out was done to raise the shaft, maybe for a bigger propeller but has been carried out in an un-sympathetic way. If so it would be one of the later Northwich sterns if they remain bulkhead brackets would give an idea if it was a 9 or 15 fitted but the water inlet has gone at least from the outside. However if overplated it may be possible to see it from inside as Ling has 2 one blanked for pup and a second for the big engine. Though as said before it does not suggest which boat it is and as there were a few cut in half.