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  3. Not quite the right question, is it? I don't expect a family in a house to move. I might expect a family living in a transit van to move, rather than stay parked up and down the same street for years on end. I expect a family living on a boat, claiming to be cruising, to be cruising. Well, I don't really expect them to, but the law does. I also do think that there have to be changes made, so that people living in mobile accomodation can legally stay in a place when they need to, for as long as they need to. Of course, this has been the argument of Traveller families for most of the last century, and they get kicked off land they themselves own for an assortment of reasons. Legally, for a long time they should have been provided places to stay, but every authority in the country weaselled out of it. So why should boating families be treated any different? The whole thing needs sorting out, but is unlikely to happen under our political system and where increasing house prices are more or less a religion. I think I first read that rather specious argument in 1994. It was nonsense then and is nonsense now. Not Angry at all, just amused at reading the same old drivel year after year. Of course there aren't hundreds of them. The ones that are are a bit of a nuisance, but that's all. But if they can't be identified, they can't be seized because there's no proof that they have been overstaying. And if they aren't uninhabited, they just need to move a few feet and pretend to be a diffrent boat. It's not as easy as just towing it away. And yes, it's complicated by a rubbish housing system in this country, and everyone needs somewhere to live, and personally I don't give a toss whether their boat is licensed or not. CRT do though.
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  7. No need for inventing anything. There are many examples of hogging moorings I've come across. In some cases the boat hasn't budged in years. So who exactly is behaving like they're more important than anyone else? And please don't make this into some kind of rich/poor or class thing. It isn't, it's simply about being reasonable and trying to be equitable with a finite resource.
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  8. Surely there are only two categories of boaters -- those who divide boaters into categories, and those who don't... ?
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  10. In life increasing restrictions generally arise alongside increasing demand. It's akin to the economic law of demand & supply. I'm surprised that some people aren't aware of this and often seem shocked when things become more difficult or expensive. When I took my motorbike test in 1980 I just rode around the block and did an emergency stop when the examiner jumped out into the road from the pavement. That was basically it. Now it's much more difficult. I think most of us of a certain age remember taking our driving tests and being in the car with the examiner. After 20 mins of driving the examiner asked a few simple questions. These days, as well as the driving they have to sit a formal written test. I remember going to Glastonbury in 1981. At that time it was a few fields with about 20,000 hippies and alternative types and you could easily bunk in by walking through a hedgerow. Last time it was on 300,000 people attended. It stopped being an alternative festival several decades ago and now costs a couple of hundred quid for a ticket and it's surrounded by high fences and security. With increased demand things change, generally for the worse, don't be surprised. I bought my first boat to live on in 1998 but compared to some on this forum I'm still a relative newby. It seems ironic how some people who've only taken to the waterways in the last few years (and I'm not necessarily including the OP) complain about increasing restrictions when it's actually the increased demand created by them and lots of other new boaters that have brought about these changes. It's a bit like how people stuck in traffic jams complain about traffic jams when they're part of the problem.
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  11. I’m tempted to ignore it anyway! I will be passing that way…I think it’s time boaters started being bolshy…especially those using the system rather than just being welded to to towpath in one spot.
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  14. I thought there were 10 categories of boaters - those who understand binary, and those who don't...
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  16. One person’s restrictions are another person’s improvements. Ask yourself why CRT bothered to make those changes. I suggest because the canal in that area has a history of live aboard boats who hog the moorings and move as little as they can possibly get away with. It boils down to whether you think the canals are a place to house people, or whether they are a leisure park for everyone’s recreation. My personal view is the latter, but of course I accept that for plenty of people it’s the former. Who is right? Moorings that are 14 days a year at least improves the chances of a leisure boater being able to find somewhere to moor in that area when passing through on a cruise. Though I’m inclined to agree with your question about how it can be policed, and even whether it’s legal.
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  20. Thank you for one of your (mercifully rare) insights, yet again based on lazy stereotyping.
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  25. Saw Dover today on the Audlem flight, the owner was wearing a t-shirt that said... Yes it is the one off the TV. No I didn't buy it from Alan Herd.
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  26. True, and a big splash when the neighbour shoves it into the canal in anger.
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  27. And the odd half tone of coal, 6 people drinking beer etc
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  28. Wont the voles be in the charging points?
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  29. Obviously no heating on their boat, he's had to go to the pub in his sleeping bag
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  31. I sailed from here on my first ship in Sept 1958. It was then owned by Shell
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  33. Your differing is accepted and agreed. No need to beg! Whilst it’s never good to try to categorise people, perhaps there are 3 categories relevant to this issue, not 2 as I previously suggested. Splitting the live aboard boaters into two categories, those such as yourself who like to explore the system whilst happening to live aboard, and those who only have a boat because it is somewhere nice to live, perhaps in an otherwise unaffordable area. Only this last category is inconvenienced by the new restrictions
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  36. You imply that people who live aboard might be disadvantaged by these changes. I beg to differ. I live aboard and would like to see more of these sort of restrictions, giving me a chance to find a mooring. The 14 days in a year is especially useful to me. I tend to go on one long continuous cruise each year with not much back-tracking. So far this year, I've done about 140 miles in one direction. By the end of the year I expect I'll be at around 300-400 miles. That's while working full time too. I must say I kinda pity those who just shuffle up and down the same section for years on end, especially in the busier areas. Must be a pretty miserable existance.
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  39. Its not really incompetence, its more like a well executed but misguided plan. They are totally obsessed by corporate branding and are just looking for any reason to put up more ugly blue signs. Up here they recently did a survey of the current signs and then replaced them with nasty new blue ones. One sign said nothing at all, I assume most of it had broken off in the past, so they replaced it with a blue sign that also said nothing at all. ..........Dave
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  42. this is true, but equally true is that the people who don’t want to move their boats should perhaps instead consider a caravan. That way the people who do actually want to cruise the system wouldn’t have to spend 50% of their time at tickover on some canals, and in fear of being shouted at by the residents who resent seeing boats moving and resent even more if their own badly tied up boat bobs about ever so slightly. But I think the earlier point of equitable sharing is the relevant one. Near our Marina there are probably 10 CCing boats that one sees all the time, they never move from the environs of Tamworth. And to be honest I don’t care, they are not doing any harm. Tonight we are moored at Star City (offside pontoon moorings) and towpath side there are 5 boats all in a little community. I asked the chap how long they’d been there and he said “about a year”. Good for you, I said, great to see some boats “taming” the wilds of Birmingham. They are certainly not inconveniencing anyone. But the problem arises when you multiply that by “a lot” and put them in a desirable area where housing costs are high (eg MK into London) and then you have congestion, nowhere for cruising boats to moor etc etc. Hence the need for mooring restrictions, so that everyone gets a chance to moor, not just those who set their towels out on the sun loungers 10 years ago.
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  43. People could take another view of boats that rarely move far and everytime they see one give thanks that they are keeping the waterway clear for those that want to get places, if the moaners got their way they would be facing more queues for locks, stopping at bridge holes for oncoming boats and a much busier waterway which they would then moan about as well.
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  44. It doesn't have to identified, Mr angry. If it is unlicenced it can be seized and removed after due process. If you used common sense you would obviously see that there are not hundreds of craft dating back decades littering the waterways that CRT cannot touch because they are " unidentified".
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  46. Schoolboy error leaving the boot open. The shopping will be ruined.
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