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Being inept is excusable (Well I think it is - others will disagree) Being heavy handed and deaf to protests about injustices is not excusable, that is the way of monopolies and dictatorships. BWB did it to me years ago, I renewed a licence, they cashed the cheque then refused to issue the licence because they said I didn't have a mooring, I did and it was one of theirs. That was 30 years ago and living with threats from BWB / CRT wears you down unless you are very thick skinned indeed and I am not. We had two very young children on the boat at the time. There is a lesson in this though, from time to time there are calls for CRT to 'tidy up' various boats or groups of boats that people object to. There is sometimes an assumption that CRT or 'The authorities' need more powers to deal with 'the problem'. I would say that they have plenty of power and to be careful what you wish for and that goes for all authorities from the government to the local parish council. edit... no idea why crt is underlined, I'm not shouting - honest.

It would appear that CRT seized the motor, not the home, so that appears legitimate if it was unlicensed. It was returned as it was, in fact, licenced and CRT had made a cockup, and I hope he gets compensation. If they knew the home was a butty, then it should have been obvious they were connected and taking the motor was just daft as that would make it impossible for the remaining craft to fulfill conditions - unless the butty was in fact not registered as such but as a boat. But surely there must have been some communication prior to their seizing the boat when this could have been pointed out? Everyone else I know who has had erroneous overstay or licence letters from crt have had several, in plenty of time to phone up and get it put right - especially if this was the second time this had happened. Maybe he just ignored them, not believing they could make the same mistake twice. One is, however, always a bit suspicious of phrases like "moved in accordance with current requirements", as that usually means skirting the edges of legality and doing the absolute minimum you think you can get away with. Of course, in this case it might just be legalese.

One issue with a JR is that the process can be terminated at any time simply by the defendant agreeing to reverse their decision. So that is fine if your only aim is to get your boat back. On the other hand if your aim is to expose the routine illegal activities of an organisation to the court’s scrutiny, with the hope that they won’t continue to repeat the illegal activity, then it is useless. Clearly CRT know full well that they acted illegally, otherwise they wouldn’t have capitulated so easily, but I very much doubt it will make them change their behaviour in the future. You only have to look at their attempts to subvert statute by their new, stronger “terms and conditions” to see that they are still hell bent on operating outside the law and statute.

We are pretty convinced that this is the way to go for continuous cruisers. Research done, loo bought, let the waste production begin? Will report back. Bloody glad to see the back of the vacuflush and heavy cassettes.

I am aware of a couple of CCing boats not too far from me that have barely moved in two years. I strongly suspect that one has not had a licence for a year. I know that CRT are in contact with the owners trying to get them to sort things out. CRT do not just turn up and take a boat out of the water because its licence is a few months out of date. If they are now taking that sort of action then we all need to know, and hopefully do something about it, but its no good if we are only getting a small part of the overall story. .............Dave

No conspiracy, its called experience and knowledge of the S8 system. So you cannot answer the question then.

I don't think anyone is questioning the fact that C&RT issued a licence and their system incorrectly showed it as a 6 month licence. The point is that C&RT would have sent several letters, he would have had several discussions with bankside enforecement, emails, phone calls etc and would appear to have ignored them for several months. OR Are you suggesting that on the 6-month + 1 day, C&RT rolled up, kicked him out if his boat and towed it away ? Something is getting very smelly now 'like a rotting Pike'. When we get to hear the 'other side' of the Baton Twirlers stories it is often very much at odds with how they report it. Maybe the truth will one day come out.

According to the link the boat was removed because CRT said it was unlicensed, their records showing that the 6 months licence had expired, whereas in reality it was still within the 12 month licence period. So apparently CRT had removed the boat within 6 months of the apparent licence expiry. That just doesn't compute with CRT's processes and timescales for unlicensed boats. So there is something else going on which we haven't been told about.

It isn't you. If you are on a laptop, or similar with a mouse cursor interface, hover the cursor over many abbreviations in posts, including CRT and it will show you what it stands for. Canal River Trust. Who knew?! Works for CWDF as an abbreviation and I'm sure others too. Has been coded in to the forum by those clever people who look after it. Can't remember if it works with touch screen phone type interfaces or not. Jen

I had my lost wallet returned to me because of having my home mooring location on my boat. We'd made the short trip by boat for a meal at a pub about 5 miles from the marina. It was nice weather so we sat outside, and unbeknown to me my wallet had fallen out of my back pocket. The first I knew of this was when our marina office phoned me. A waitress at the pub had found the wallet and remembered seeing our boat moored there. and that it was local, so she'd had the presence of mind to phone the marina, I popped back there to thank her and to give her a suitable reward.

Unfortunately true. The sump of all knowledge. I am surprised Nick has not jumped in with his usual "moor it up properly" cat's cradle of ropes. Fortunately I have him ignored. So I can sleep soundly. Its only a stove for heavens sakes, get a life!

Or help a 20 something year old Newbie Boater YouTube Ylogger who can’t be ars&d to work for a living