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Jo Cox Member of Parliament, boat dweller, sometime liveaboard narrowboater her violent death on Thursday 16 June 2016 was a personal tragedy for her and her family, a national tragedy for all of us. May we in our minds eye go to the calm waters of the Calder and Hebble Navigation. As we leave Battyeford Cut heading upriver under a long narrow pedestian bridge and eight boat-lengths further on under another bridge, we have passed through the extent of the navigable waterways of the Parliamentary Constituency of Batley and Spen. It's just one of those things that we will not be able to show her that cartographic quirk on the edge of her constituency. On her parliamentary website it said "Surgeries. Thursday 16th June – 1pm until 2pm @ Birstall Library and Information Centre. No appointment is necessary, please just come along". May that personal commitment to openness and our democratic processes stand in her memory. Jo Cox Member of Parliament: we will remember you. May you Rest In Peace. From my brief tribute at a waterways meeting that weekend. Jo Cox was murdered at her parliamentary surgery that afternoon. Flowers at Birstall war memorial

Just a quick update on where I am with things... First off, thanks again for your responses. All very much appreciated. My mind's been pretty much consumed over the last few days with nothing other than what to do. I've been changing my mind on what feels like a minute by minute basis, and it's been causing me no end of anxiety and stress. I'm naturally a cautious person and like things planned out and to feel in control. What I'm doing at the moment is leaving me feeling the opposite. I've been really honest with my finances and circumstances, and that I'd need to take on further, manageable debt of around £7K on top of the £13K I owe in order to account for a slight bridge in funding the boat itself, but also the survey, blacking, 3 months licence and mooring, new mattress for the boat, new bed and mattress for my spare room and so on. In buying a boat I'd not be just wiping out my savings but taking on more debt, as well as no contingency if things went wrong. And that leaves me feeling deeply uncomfortable. The chain of events including finding a boat, looking for a lodger, wondering about the impact of a non-resedential address might be, taking on debt etc have made me feel like I'm just a passenger on a rollercoaster, as though I've no control over things, when the opposite is true. I feel my job's safe and at the moment there's no sign of this changing. I work in distribution/warehousing servicing a number of customers, so the eggs aren't all in one basket. But despite this the consistent message of 'this is the tip of the iceberg' in terms of things has also ground me down and my naturally cautious side has won over. I've made the decision not to go ahead with the purchase. It's not so much about not wanting to make the move and get a boat to live on any longer, it's about doing it at a point where I feel nothing other than 100% comfortable the time's right. That might be as little as six months away. Who knows. It's inspired me to continue to save hard, waste little, so I can get there soon enough and make sure everything's in place. The longer I wait, the more I save, the nicer boat I'll have too. It'll also buy me time in so much as in 6-12 months I'd have thought most of the impact of Covid and Brexit will be felt and any implications in terms of work etc known too. Lastly, I've had a few health problems recently. Blood tests have revealed nothing, so I'm waiting an MRI brain scan, heart trace and some sort of cortisone/hormone test. Hopefully it'll turn out to be something and nothing, and ironically since I visited the GP a few weeks ago, the symptoms have subsided at little. That said, today I left work early due to extreme back and neck pain - something never experienced before - having never been of work sick for years. I'm just hoping it's related to tension from the last few days. I'll no doubt be back on here in months to come scouting for opinions on another boat etc. I'm grateful for what I've got and there are literally millions out there who'd love to be in my position. Ultimately, it's a selfish first-world problem on my part given all that's going on. Thanks again.

When I lived on, it was the bloke next door selling his boat. He used to run his engine until about one in the morning...

Hi all, Sorry for going awol for a while. Moving on the boat alone (broke up with partner) while in the middle of uni deadline week was not the plan and I did just bury my head in the sand for a few days as I didn't feel I could cope. Alan, who I can't thank enough, has helped me enormously, and thanks to his advice and encouragement I have fitted a battery charger which is powered by shore power, meaning that I now have running water and interior lighting. The water pump ceased to function yesterday, and again thanks to Alan's advice we managed to get it fixed. I've only just checked the thread again and am a bit overwhelmed with the amount of new messages here and that people were concerned. Makes me feel less alone doing this. Thanks very much for your help and for checking in on me, I'm really very grateful. Here is a pic of the old girl. Thanks again guys.

Some of these boat crusties like give the impression that they're a key part of waterways culture. They talk about their way of life and "the liveaboard community" like they're a representative sample. They don't represent me and I don't accept their premise that there's any prejudice. The waterways are overcrowded and we're all expected to comply with the same rules. Anyway, it's a very one-sided video. No interviews with the boaters who don't support them. That pedal powered boat could never hope to comply with any continuous cruising rules. If she can't control her boat in a gentle breeze it sort of makes the point that the boat needs an engine, although nobody is going to bother wasting their money installing an engine on that boat. I certainly wouldn't fancy taking it onto a river!

It is on the Trent at Newark, by lock 14. They are a lot better now than they have been Is suppose that is just a Before-After shot in reverse ☺️

Gopsall Wharf Ashby canal 1975. WRG lent us one of their Smalley machines so we could dredge the loading place. Mostly coal which had missed or been shoveled off the boats. N. Hill bagged it up and sold it later on. This land and the wharf belongs to the crown estate but we were never coal by appointment.

Thanks. Fingers crossed. I'm aiming for 6-12 months, assuming the doctor doesn't write me off ?

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On a river, it will carry on till it gets caught in trees, runs aground on the bank, or on a weir barrier. Your immediate problem is getting to the bank without drowning and wearing a lifejacket is a much better idea. Getting to wherever the boat has got to is a problem for later. You are worrying about a miniscule risk and the solution introduces new hazards. A boat where the engine is stopped on a river is still out of control. Your chances of being able to board a narrowboat in the water is small when wearing wet clothes, even with the boarding steps that modern shells have. Jen

If you are boating single handed I guarentee you will forget to disconnect the kill switch when getting off to do locks and forget to reconnect when getting on. It will be a massive pain in the bum and after the first day it will never be used again. People falling off and dying does happen, but is very rare. Usually as has been mentioned, getting drawn in to a reversing prop in a lock.

It would be possible, on engines with a fuel solenoid powered to run, fairly easily. Few and far between now. On engines with a powered to stop solenoid, like all Beta engines, a bit more involved. On boats with a mechanical stop cable, involved. But is it really needed? The chances of getting chopped by the blade is minimal unless you are reversing or for some reason thrashing in a lock. Could you train the dog to stop or to steer? Or would the dog be even more gleeful if it could cruise alone? TD'

Yes, suitably spruced up (courtesy of the lockdown) and could be for sale to the right person.

If what they asked made sense or indeed was always safe practice I’d agree...sadly it’s not so I will continue to rather operate my own locks...if they want to set them up on a flight that’s fine but I’d rather not have either myself, my crew or my boat at risk.

And if you need a suitable tug @NB Esk might be able to help.

There’s a life lesson for you right there

You can go in 20 shops a day, but you cant sleep in your boat, if you own a house. Nonsense. Your child can go to the zoo to those 20 shops and visit their grandparents, but cant go to school. Nonsense If you are part of the inner sanctum you can leave london with your covid ridden Spouse, go and live in a house built with no planning permission , and not paying council tax, and visit beauty spots at will. As well as driving with dodgy eyesight. Nonsense No wonder people just do what they like.

There is nothing on the CRT website that says the boat has to return to its home mooring. You can not stay on it overnight but that doesn't mean it has to go back to its home mooring so long as you go back to your residence at the end of the day. Whoever you spoke too at CRT is giving you out of date information, you can check their website for the current guidance.

We saw her sold I think. Tied up at Buckby opposite this pm saw people looking. Good luck in new venture.

Electric blanket for the winter months.

On a nice rural mooring with nice views I could understand it, but the moorings we looked at are finger jetties with the next boat closer too yours then we are in a marina!! I certainly think that they have set the prices too high on the Torksey and West Stockwith moorings which might explain why there are so many currently available.

Also on this day in 2001 Ashby Canal End of the then connected-and navigable-section. compare with#984 (2011) and #1203 (1976)

Possible? Yes. Practical? No. You need to get on and off the boat at locks etc. If you just leave the kill switch key in place without the lanyard attached to your wrist you might as well not bother. There are a few MAIB accident reports where boaters have been criticised for doing just this, and people have died as a result. If you fall off the back of a narrow boat, let it carry on. You may well be able to stand up and wade to the bank, but if it is too deep it is a pretty short swim, even on rivers (and if you are not confident of your swimming ability, wear a life jacket on deeper waters). The boat will come into the bank on its own at some point. Then you have time to consider how you are going to reboard.

I was having exactly the same thoughts for the same reasons (minus the dog - even he wouldn't save me). As @Tracy D'arth said you would likely need to use something with with a positive switch to parallel the regular engine stop switch. I wondered if something like this might work. https://www.asap-supplies.com/chromed-brass-ignition-cut-off-switch-744324 I know it is a very unlikely occurrence to fall off, but on the other hand, if you browse through the threads, plenty of folks are pointing out the relative 'frequency' of freak accidents that end in disaster.

Hi erivers, I've just spoken to Chris Howes (who is now in a meeting) - He says that he believes the MLC are waiting to receive approval from the (probably currently pre-occupied) Government for the Bylaws. New amenities are under active current discussion but no contributory income has been received yet. The intent is to first provide amenities at Stanground and Salters Lode. Although there are current PCC and EA amenities past these locks, these are not always available because of river conditions. MLC are doing their very best to enhance boating on their waters. He adds that he personally applauds their endeavours. My view is that knocking them isn't helpful and isn't going to make anything happen any more quickly.

How many of the people commenting have lived aboard with children? I have, and would recommend going for the largest boat you can afford and that is practical. Living aboard with kids isn't like taking a holiday. They all need their own beds, private space (even more so as they head into the teenage years).

A couple of photos by Jack Parkinson, mid-1950s I think, of Arches Lock and Rider's boatyard.

6 years on a label I saw on one this weekend. I don't recall having ever read one before, but it was well timed to help answer your query.

High pressure sodium discharge lamps? The ballast gear for these is complex and heavy- be careful when taking them down. Usual lamp designation is SON-T, 250 or 400watt . Excellent general lighting in factory or car parks etc. Colour rendering poor but a lot better than those low pressure sodium street lights that are still about. All obsolete now with super efficient LED lighting. In the picture there is a small depression in the end of the bulb, this is to fit a small spring metal bracket which supports the bulb in a horizontal type fitting , but not necessary here where it is vertical.

I wouldnt say they lost control, I think it is more...lost the goodwill of the British public with their rabid press releases,.lies and defence of Cummings.

As a cheerful electrical ignoramus when I moved onto my boat, I happily ran the engine for an hour every two or three days. That gave me enough oomph to get lights through an evening and even let me watch an hour of TV. When the lights wouldn't any more I went to bed and ran the engine next day. For an hour. And, to be honest, I don't think the battery died any quicker than subsequent ones when I was cruising. It may be different now, with people having six batteries and a pile of electronics, but was perfectly manageable then, and, on my tub, still seems to be.

Everything on the mainline west of Sheepcote Street (e.g. by the Roundhouse) is 14 day, including the recently added moorings rings beyond St Vincent Street. Cambrian Wharf is 14 day in the 'basin' itself but not the online moorings by the sani station. Holliday Wharf and south of Granville Street are also 14 day. If showers/toilets/water etc is a priority, the services at Holliday Wharf are a lot nicer than by Cambrian Wharf. Having said all of that, Brum is pretty quiet for moored boats right now so I can't see anyone at CRT getting their knickers in a twist wherever you moor. There's a boat on the 14 day moorings by the Roundhouse which hasn't moved in about a year now, so at 24 hour overstay is unlikely to even register...

Unless things have changed; Brindley Place 14 days Cambrian Wharf 14 days

I've just fitted 2 x 175w panels using the black plastic feet, I found the best way way was to put the feet on the roof then the Panel then drill the holes it took care of the curve of the roof, then stick them down using Soudal Soudaflex.

They will be absolutely no use to you as a liveaboard, they are designed to keep the battery 'topped' up over winter, they are not big enough (enough watts) to recharge your batteries. As you are staying in the marina for the next X months, don't worry about them. Get plugged in to the mains and check if there is a battery charger, if not get out and buy one ASAP (but ask first as you don't just want a 'Halfords' car charger.) Tomorrow, get to B&Q or somewhere and get a multimeter similar to the one in the link I sent you. Longer term you will need a 'better' one but you are going to have a lot of expense in the next few weeks and I reckon a 'few' new batteries and help to install them will be needed. I sent you battery details and prices by message. It'll all look better after a celebratory bottle of Prosecco.

Not if they're soft boiled they're not !!