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  1. People don't have to play golf or tennis, but the recent changes mean that they are quite at liberty to do so. Since you and others seem so intent upon 'commonsense' how about some commonsense Government decisions rather than being led by the wittering classes of the Daily Wail and Sun. When the lockdown is lifted there will be an increase in infections and deaths, I think pretty much everyone is accepting of that. When Spain started to come out of lockdown, their daily infection rate was circa 500-700 (under 1000) and now after about 10 days they are back up to 3000+ so, unless you still believe in the English exceptionalism, we can pretty much expect the same, except we are currently starting from a far higher figure, so after 10 days or so, instead of going up to where the Spanish are at 3000 (still less that where we are now) we could easily rise to 16,000 - 17,000 infections a day if we get the same percentage rise. Do I trust the 'commonsense' Government to then say,"Oh we need to re-impose a lock-down", frankly, no I don't as it would be acknowledgement of lifting the lockdown too soon so we will rattle on with increasing infection/death rates until they have no choice and we will be back to where we started from. Two more weeks lockdown and then monitor what is happening elsewhere and follow the sensible lead would be the commonsense approach, but as you say we don't do commonsense.
    4 points
  2. As one of the few (maybe only) people here who has done significant boating during the lockdown, can I second this? You're not just sitting, fat and happy, in the middle of the canal, and surface transmission at locks is the least of your worries. Much more of the problem is when you're standing on the back of the boat in the bottom of a lock and someone's ugly mug appears above you whilst they gawp at this new sight: there are a LOT of people taking their Boris exercise on towpaths who have never been near a canal before lockdown and have not seen boats moving. Two metres safe distance is two metres HORIZONTALLY, if someone is standing above you, you're much more vulnerable. To be safe, expect to have to shout at people to get them to clear lock areas before you use the lock, and expect to get very strange looks when you shout at people standing on bridges as you approach to ask them to move off the bridge whilst you pass under. Now that everyone has been let out again, somewhere like Foxton will be hell to boat through; it'll be heaving, as will Buckby top lock; the pub may be closed but people will be using the tables on the lockside. Add similar places in you locale to taste. Also expect the towpaths to be busier than you're used to: there will be a lot more people walking past your boat, and a lot more people cycling. Judging by the prevalence of groups of young males travelling fast on bikes during the lockdown period, gay, poly, marriage is a lot more common than I thought. MP.
    4 points
  3. I'm amazed at this thread, it's not that hard to understand, boating for pleasure ain't yet permitted, just wait and continue to do your bit to keep the population as safe as you can. Anecdotally the number of boats, that appear to be non-liveaboards, that are moving has at least doubled since the weekend. Including a absolutely massive wide beam which moored up next to me for exactly a week before heading back off in the direction it came. We all like our hobbies, but for now we should make small sacrifices with them rather than looking for loop holes in the new rules
    4 points
  4. You can only chose from what's on offer, and that wasn't.
    3 points
  5. We shouldn't forget that the main purpose of the lockdown, as 'sold' to the public was to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. It wasn't introduced to stop all deaths from the virus. To do so would be impossible. To get close to 'no deaths' would require limitations on freedoms that would be unacceptable in our culture. If by chance these limitations were accepted, and widely adhered to by the vast majority of the population, the economy would be left in a state as unpalatable to the British people as would have been the limitations to 'achieve' this. So I'm afraid the path is still to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed until such a time as some kind of 'herd immunity' is established and/ or a successful vaccine is developed.
    3 points
  6. In a nutshell Dan, thats how most people with, as the PM put it " Common sense " see it. Rocket science it isnt.
    3 points
  7. I think you will find we have left the E.U. Granted we are in a transition until the end of the year, but we then finish that period. Negotiations are continuing to finalise a trade agreement.
    2 points
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  9. Edwardian are superb, not cheap but the best never is ?
    2 points
  10. When I first encounter locks, I shall be washing my hands after each and every lock. Wearing gloves is pointless IMO. It just means you may have virus on your gloves instead of your hands. If you then touch your face, the outcome is the same. Your hands are easier to wash too. Disposable gloves may have some value IF you discard them after every lock but that's probably more bother than washing your hands.
    2 points
  11. How can common sense be applied safely to what has oft been very wooly information. Even Ministers have had problems interpreting it correctly at times. Easy to say you got that wrong, where is your common sense. Typical get-out clause in my books.
    2 points
  12. if every thing this girl says is true .and yes there are two sides ,but lets just say its all true what she is saying ,,the bods on here would still look for an angle to twist and turn every thing she said ,look at most if not all the threads on here ,it happens every time ..there are some well meaning threads and even those get the snide remarks ,they all start off well ,but then they slowly go down hill over time .a thread can start of by some one needing a bmc engine ..10 comments in or so. the thread turns to some thing compleately different /.whats her health got to do with this ...any one got any eggs for sale ...oh i might end up being offered a box of spanners ...stay safe all
    2 points
  13. I agree. It was jolly useful to see their plans over the next few weeks. Of course, we all know those plans may have to change. Let's all hope the R0 stays below 1.
    2 points
  14. For permanent liveaboards, the question is, can they go on longer cruises, or only to the water/elsan and back? I do think that's a legally grey area but for the sake of being reasonable, they should all be minimising their cruising. Where forum members have had good reason to cruise to a new area, fair enough. I would be cruising mainly for my own enjoyment, so that's not fair enough (even though some boaters are clearly doing this). I will wait until overnight stays at second homes are allowed and then I may head off for my cruising season.
    2 points
  15. It's both. The key thing is that we can't stay overnight away from our primary home. I'm in an odd position: My boat is my primary home. However, since lockdown started I've been living in someone else's house with them. So right now, this house would reasonably be classed as my home. I could, if I wanted to be bloody minded about it, go to my boat today, declare myself home, and set off cruising. That's clearly not what the government or CRT intend though, so common sense kicks in...
    2 points
  16. I'd call that a graph, and I think a graph does need labelled axes and a title and possibly a key to mean much. Otherwise it's just a pretty line that means nothing.
    2 points
  17. Cold fusion is certainly the way forward and I have been working on this too, I used to work at Southampton University in the building next to the chemistry department where it was invented, and I did find a few bits and pieces in the skip, but still can't work out exactly how to put them back together. ..............Dave
    2 points
  18. My thanks to yourselves for getting this going, and to all who have participated. There have been departures, certainly by myself, from the specification of nice things today but the general wish is to be interesting, I am sure. This field pattern at Montady, beside the Canal du Midi hopefully complies, although it is, I believe eight centuries old!.
    2 points
  19. As they do where we moor, the boat next door to us is liveaboard, we are hobby boaters.
    2 points
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  21. I'm not too clear as to what work is so urgent. Blacking? a few months not That critical. Depleted anodes? You can always hang a few overboard bonded to the hull with a bit of wire or chain. Galvanic isolator, no big deal if not on shorepower or in a marina. Others may shoot me down but I think you're overthinking the issues.
    2 points
  22. My daughter is a teacher. She is DESPERATE to get back to work in order to help her children. She would happily work through the traditional summer break in order to try and help the kids make up for lost time. She is not alone.
    2 points
  23. Might I suggest they could go out as long as they wear a label that means Total Withdraw of All Treatment or T.W.A.T. for short!? Just in case anyone is in doubt I am joking!
    1 point
  24. Quite so. If was able (I live in Wales so can't) I would be tempted to go to the Marina and check the boat out but at the moment even if I could I would not be going out boating until a few more weeks yet.
    1 point
  25. Other than people who are retired and don't really mind where they might be stuck think it would be wise to avoid going too far this year . I have certainly curtailed my plans and hope for a little more freedom later in the year . I must confess to being very surprised at the decision to allow day trips by boat. Terrifying as it may seem this is of course the underlying plan, the idea being to spread the virus in a controlled fashion while not overwhelming the NHS . Worst case scenario is the infection rate drops off completely and people stop the social distancing which will create a repeat performance. Better to introduce freedoms gradually. We must behave ourselves , not exceed the limits advised , and keep apart from people who are not living in the same household.
    1 point
  26. when you can stand up in it? when it has a toilet behind a door? Mine boasts neither facility. OTOH we've all seen brave souls living in sub 20' Normans and Shetlands. Wouldn't want to but if it was a park bench or the boat, no question.
    1 point
  27. This perhaps illustrates a fundamental problem of leaving something like this to the individual whim. Before I retired I would not infrequently undertake a 500+ mile round trip in a day, simply because I preferred to be at home rather than in a hotel (even an expensive one). These days I am less sure, Covid-19 notwithstanding, but my day-trip limit would still be more distant than yours. Having said that, the boat is 26 miles away and I haven't been yet. Perception, and all that.
    1 point
  28. Actually found a photo of this day 2016 Grugey Canal burgundy
    1 point
  29. Hello, I bought a 9" deep mattress from this company 6 years ago. It was made to my measurements and fitted perfectly. Sorry to say, that although it is used only 5 months per year and gets turned frequently, it is no longer very comfortable and will be replaced soon. It hasn't really been comfy for last couple of years, hope this is useful. Garry.
    1 point
  30. Of course I do not, I never said that and you know I didn't say that, but there will be certain sections of society that will see that headline as an excuse to do as they please, that was the point.
    1 point
  31. I'm not sure there can be a party line in respect of CV-19. The virus is indiscriminate. Any politician that tries to gain political points in this situation is not worth much. I think we might get an off-topic reminder soon. Better steer it back to the thread's topic.
    1 point
  32. Let me know which bit of the advice you find confusing and I'll explain it to you. I don't find it in the least bit muddled.
    1 point
  33. View this email in your browser Coronavirus & boating update, 13 May 2020 Hello Paul, When we were in touch yesterday we said that, along with other navigation authorities, we would review when navigation might re-open in light of the new Government advice. Government have issued clarification this morning, 13 May. We are now able to set out our approach to opening our navigation to private boating in England. Please remember that social distancing continues to be maintained, with only members of your household able to go aboard your boat until further notice. From today, Weds 13 May 2020 You may undertake short boating trips only from today – avoiding use of locks and any staff-operated structures if possible – providing, as per current government guidance, you do not stay away from home overnight and return to your home mooring (where you have one). From Saturday, 23 May: Mooring exemptions will come to an end and our guidance for continuous cruisers comes back in to force. This doesn’t mean that every boat without a home mooring needs to move on this day, just that we’d expect you to move off your current mooring within 14 days (i.e. by 6 June). If you are in a high-risk group, and need to continue to shield or self-isolate, then special arrangements can be agreed with your licence support officer if you haven’t already told us. From Monday, 1 June: On this date, we anticipate that our navigations will re-open in full, subject to some exceptions*, and you will be able to undertake longer journeys. According to current Government guidance, those who do not liveaboard should not stay overnight. We will seek further clarification as to whether overnight stays will be permissible once full navigation resumes. *Please bear in mind that it will take time to get the entire network fully operational, and booking for some passages and services will be required. Some sections may be closed for a further period. Our website will be updated with the details closer to the time. Wales: If you or your boat is on a Welsh canal please follow the latest advice which may be different from above. Please stay safe and stay alert at all times. Damian Kemp, Boating communications manager, Canal & River Trust Copyright © 2020 Canal & River Trust, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you either opted in at our website or purchased a boat licence from us. Our mailing address is: Canal & River Trust Fearns Wharf Neptune Street Leeds, West Yorkshire LS9 8PB United Kingdom Add us to your address book Want to change how you receive these emails? You can update your preferences or unsubscribe from this list
    1 point
  34. The issue really is limiting activity and as been pointed out keeping the infection rate low (R number) this means restricting people doing things. It is natural for people looking to get out and about whenever they see a new rule relaxing those restrictions to want to add on and find a way to do what they wish to do. Canoeing may seem very like boating in a narrowboat but there are subtle differences and if you allow both that mean more people milling about travelling etc. If every argument of "if they can do that then I an do this" is allowed pretty soon it means everyone can do anything. We need to keep the spread of the virus to a minimum level or a lot of people will die through our own selfishness. I live only a couple of miles from Llyn Tegid (Bala Lake) a very nice place to go sailing. I have my boat at home I could just hitch up and go sailing and with little chance of meeting up with anyone and I cold even tag it onto a shopping trip into the town. That is not permitted at the moment and so I do not do it not because I could not do this reasonably safely but because we need to be good citizens and follow the rules and guidelines and do our bit not just to keep me safe but to keep everyone around us safe. The advice and guidance from CRT and other navigation authorities is clear, just follow it. I do not think it will be long (assuming we do not start to get a 2nd spike in cases) before things are more open and navigation possible. In the meantime lines have to be drawn and some things not permitted there will be things that fall one side of that line or the other.
    1 point
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  36. It's all about the locks really. What do you do when you arrive at the lock and there's a dozen Gongoozlers and three fishermen on it. Not easy to socially distance.
    1 point
  37. You probably wouldn't put a lime in a fruit salad either.
    1 point
  38. The guidelines don't object to people travelling short distances, or longer, to get to the boats. It's what is then permissible, once there. Once cruising is allowed, the ball game changes. All boats, apart for liveaboards' essential needs for services, are for visiting only.
    1 point
  39. Exactly this. I'd add that when the things a person says or writes are clearly to offend or wind up the other person rather than actually engaging with the debate, then I will find my patience wearing thin. This is exactly what defines a troll.
    1 point
  40. That's why most golf courses are fully booked today isnt it. 4 people from different households meeting and wandering round a long park together. Something I'm not allowed to do with my kids and grandkids.
    1 point
  41. And it becomes a case not of "right" or "wrong" but "who produced the best video..." Bit like politics really?
    1 point
  42. You have no idea how much I would like to be on a proper blue water cruising yacht at the moment ... with well stocked stores, obviously.
    1 point
  43. I think getting a small inverter is the best option. The power consumption will be very low. I’d sound a note of caution about the idea of replacing the ignition system with a 12v one: In the old days, flame failure device (aka flame supervision) worked with either a thermocouple or even a pressure bulb. The trouble with those systems is that you have to hold the gas knob down for a few seconds whilst the sensor heats up. Some modern cookers therefore use electronic flame supervision - there is no thermocouple, and often the ignition electrode doubles as a flame sensing electrode. It detects the flame virtually instantly. So there is a bit of electronics in there, linked to the gas valves. So for those types, they need a power supply all the time the burner is on, and they are expecting mains voltage to power it. If you can see a thermocouple poking out adjacent to the burners, it is the “old fashioned” type but if there is just an electrode, it is the modern type.
    1 point
  44. Just had an email from Calcutt Marina to say that the marina is open to visit boats from tomorrow. They seem to have put a lot of thought into this with site signage, and what sounds a well thought out way of the office dealing with things like the sale of electricity cards. Not going to rush there tomorrow though.
    1 point
  45. I have been given permission to use the Magic Machine on a long route back to Auckland, New Zealand. The six days of the BCN 2020 Virtual Challenge have shown it works well on Baltika and Memories but further careful testing reveals surprisingly that ANY memories, beers and dates can be input and reliable, safe results will be obtained. So; join me on a gentle ramble back to Auckland via Europe, Algeria, Togo, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Papua New Guinea and Australia. The dates will jump about a bit because fuel considerations dictate that the route is governed by geography. I have reconfigured my command module following my recent researches. The BCNS 2014 Memory Pack will be replaced by a Memory Trigger which changes from location to location. A slight admixture of Gõsser beer has proved beneficial, probably because of my 50% Austrian blood. Watch this space! I am told that the machine will self-destruct automatically and safely five days after return to Auckland. KiwiBill
    1 point
  46. It's as plain as day to me why this young lady is complaining. She is 100% correct. Bunch of idiots on this thread though. Pretty much par for the course on this forum unfortunately.
    1 point
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