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@noddyboaterwill be visiting you shortly for his protection money. Nice boat you've got there. Shame if something happened to it. Jen ?

Seen today on https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uk Now after all this investment, wouldn't you have thought they'd have at least made as much song and dance about it as they did towpath lanes for ducks?

You haven't answered Alan de Enfield's point about what arrogance and hostility? You asked if a particular boat was suitable for the canals and were told that it is not. Your posts suggest you are looking at bargain basement boats, and so some of us advised you of things you need to be aware of and the financial and other pitfalls you might encounter. This advice was all given to save you from wasting your time and money on something that could easily become a millstone around your neck. Engage positively with this forum and you can learn from the varied experience of boaters here. Or you can get snippy with people who give you advice you don't like. Your choice.

Be Prepared, black it while it's on the hard.

I take issue with your comment. I was a boaters rep last time, illness meant we had to move onto land last November and I am no longer a Boater. However the boater's reps managed to get significant changes, two reps were on the Appointments Committee & so influenced trustees appointed. We held meetings with various senior managers every quarter. I reported back, as did Andy Tidy, for meetings I attended. I hope the new reps will report back. I don't know if any have posted here at all. I am in the Friends constituency this time.

No, I understand your individual words but not when they are assembled in a random order.

Same here mate maybe we are just to old?

You could always try the nuclear option... Bagpipes ! ???

Bloody hell. That's a hell of a lot of typing. I will condense it for you. " They don't work"

I might.......

Bit harsh Bob. Christmas has been 25 Dec every year for donkey's years, and looks set to be the same for the foreseeable future: hard to get better planned I'd say. Easter, however...

It's mine and I will polish it as much as I want

Indeed, Paul, it is an awful stretch. I was moored at the junction with the Little Ouse for about three years. The company was great, the cruising was not so good. Loved Ely but hated getting there. In fact hated getting anywhere as I had to traverse that bit of the Ouse :-). Hence now being at Fox's in March en route back to the canals.

I must admit that is a possibility

Couldn't it dig its way out? ?

The answer is there seems to be a curious expectation here that you do some basic research on here before jumping in with questions. Odd as you say, given this is a section specifically for new and inexperienced people. To many new visitors, asking questions on here IS their basic research, so I agree, the way new people get treated snippily or downright rudely is very sad, it drives new members away.

Thanks to those who mentioned forum members or other of note, who are standing. I was at a total loss who to vote for. I've voted for the forum members Phil Prettyman and Andy Tidy (whose video on you tube re seeking election was a) a good idea and b) made me chuckle Also voted for the guy encouraging freight on the Aire and Calder and for Eric McDowall who is an unashamed traditionalist. Nowt wrong with a bit of tradition in these modern days! Wasn't going to vote but after reading this thread and then voting, I now feel slightly smug that I've contributed in a very small way to our waterways!

It works perfectly on GRP boats.

Have you been on those mushrooms again ?

Yes, but he says it was there on the wrong mooring, badly moored for months. So he must have visited it there, so why not either moor it properly or insist it be put back on its contracted mooring? Have to stop now, the wife's playing the tuba and it makes my head hurt. It's like living with a bloody foghorn, you can't think straight after a couple of minutes.

If you cruise the length of the canal vegetation very much comes into it. You’re only seeing desirable from your own point of view. Having boats moored on both sides is very much not the norm since it’s not possible in most places on the network. JP

Yes what? Yes I've misunderstood, yes it remains the owner's responsibility, or yes it's half a story? A gloriously unhelpful reply, thank you. I've only got the post above to work from, although I did miss that it was one of Tony's boats. It did strike me as odd that CRT would still lease (as suggested above) boats from someone they keep trying to kick off the water, but Tony's interraction with CRT is always interesting, though CRT would probably use a different word, and so, I suspect, would he.

I notice that there is often mention of coal boats being breasted up while travelling, I can see this being done on wide canals simply to reduce the manpower needed to steer them (a breasted up butty doesn't need a 2nd person steering it), but you have to remember that for narrower sections they can be singled out. With regard to the subject of living on boats, originally the vast majority of people living on canal boats were the people (including their family) that earned a living carrying cargo on the boats they lived on (not people using them as cheap accommodation and working in a close by town). The original canal design was for 2 boats to pass easily (without slowing down / going though trees / grounding) at any point and moored boats on the towpath to be unusual other than overnight, the situation now is that you are more likely to find boats moored breasted up and boats having to take it in turns to squeeze between the moored boats and the vegetation on the opposite side while being shouted at for moving too fast.

A very public demonstration of the triumph of disposable income over common sense, perhaps? (A bit like 'vanity' registration plates on cars)

Because hopefully some nice neighbour in the boating world would help them, and maybe get it to us for a quick fix. maybe you could also volunteer to help. More love less hate dude. There's always one... and we've found them.

The 1970s also had Abba, Elton John, Elvis Costello etc., but some terrible low points musically... notably Disco Duck.

Don't you get claustrophobic in that closed mind of yours, Tim?

But, surely someone living in, basically, the days of Empire might be a leetle bit influenced, culinary-wise only ofc, by, say, a large percentage of the subcontinent? ? Edited to ad: akshually, aren't you somewhere in/from Yorkshire? Forgive me... you'll have been meaning veggie is sooo last century and you're with the vegans in Hebden, no?

Not when one is accurately setting up the CO2 on an oil burner, it isn't! White diesel is the same viscosity as red diesel AIUI. Heating oil and kerosene are significantly thicker. I'd have thought it was worthwhile setting up the Rayburn to run on red diesel anyway, given its ease of availability on the cut compared to kerosene.