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Always sad to see a sight like this. I sincerely hope that nobody was hurt but we should all use this as a reminder how important it is to ensure our boats are as safe as possible. Have you got a smoke alarm and when did you last test it? Do you have two exits from your boat that are available for you to use and the routes to them are not cluttered? If nothing else if someone reads this and thinking about having an escape plan saves their life then that is forum etiquette enough for the post to stay as far as I am concerned.

In the pub or with a group of friends there are very few things, if any, subjects that are off limits, gallows humor and sarcasm bring it on, in an open public forum it is only good manners to be a touch more considerate.

Goose Busters? Sorry I couldn't resist? Is there a local facebook group you can post on?

Thanks! My two penneth: I come to this forum becasue it is full of a different mix of individuals than some others. If I want saccharine platitudes I know how to access Facebook. Yes, we might sometimes upset people unintentionally (and gross personal insults are pretty clearly off-limits around here which is fine) but the choice to be upset lies to a large extent with the reader. I've fallen into one of the bits of river in question myself when somewhat sleep deprived at the start of a relationship which led to some of the saddest (think scattering of small quantities of ashes in the same river for one thing) times in my life. And coming across mention of the location can trigger all sorts of memories. But those are mine, and for me to manage. Largely through black humour with very small audiences/large quantities of libations. If someone posts about it on here and I choose (note: choose) to read it, that is for me to deal with. Black humour and distraction may help some, and offend others. Personally I find it hard to respond to overly-optimistic posts (particularly with as many emojis as characters) which imply things may some how be OK/for the best/... when they clearly are not. I've seen dignified posts from families saying they understand things are at a recovery stage and looking for help with that being replied to with all sorts of insensitive "hope found safe and well" nonsense... But I accept that others may find them comforting/well intentioned and don't suggest they be banned. Equally when someone expresses that they find a comment in poor taste, well, that seems OK too, no? At least two people involved in one of the recent incidents are actively using boaty social media to publicise it... so, possibly more than you'd think? Happy juggling.

Don'know, no one talks to me ,I'm in Coventry.

One tells the box "If you lose your internet connection, unplug yourself and then plug yourself back in, that might fix it." The other tells the box "Ring your mother!" Well, nearly!

I thought someone might ask! Seriously I will try and answer the various points made, respecting commercial confidentiality of course. As is well known the intention always has been (and is) to move sea dredged aggregate from Hull to the new wharf at Stourton (Port Leeds) when it opens - later this year, or more likely early 2021 - both to a potential readymix plant and also 'out of the gate'. However rather unexpectedly an opportunity has recently arisen to move the material into Leeds sooner than expected so the Trust was asked by CBOA if the former Leeds Terminal (at Old Mill Lane Knostrop) could be used on a temporary basis pending opening of Stourton terminal. The wharf at Knostrop has 'protected' status conferred by Leeds City Council at least until Stourton opens and so in principle it can be used. A part of the wharf (the open area) has to be (and is) kept clear for the purpose. However there are two challenges, the first of which was not mentioned in the report. The site is currently fully let which means there is nowhere to store the sand when it's discharged. However through the generosity of one of the occupiers and CRT there may be a way forward - but it may take a bit of time to sort. The second challenge, which is mentioned, is that because the site is already very busy the Trust has had to commission a study by an independent traffic consultant to show that there will be no additional risk to users from the extra road vehicle movements generated within the site , or that any such risks can be mitigated/managed. As the tonnage is relatively small the number of lory movements isn't all that great and it's hoped that this will not be a problem. It's not traffic on public highways that is a concern. In terms of taking traffic away from the proposed Leeds Port this is not envisaged as it's expected to transfer there anyway - although Leeds City planners do see Knostrop as providing a potential additional capacity should demand be greater than Stourton can accommodate - an independent study has shown a huge potential demand. (Stourton is rather better sited for access, has no residential dwellings anywwhere near, and is an industrial zone). As far as the navigation is concerned a survey has shown a small number of locations where some spot dredging or ploughing will be needed (including Knostrop wharf itself) but this can be organised fairly quickly (as has been done before). The frustration of the customer, and indeed of the two barge operators involved, can be readily appreciated - as these things take time. I hope that helps. regards David L

Point of order, Mi'lud... The advertising of services must be approved by a moderator.

Starting this thread as suggested by @Athy Edited to add: Mods please feel free to move this into the suggestions section if that is more appropriate. I wasn't sure where it was best to start it.

This is the 100% correct answer to the question and I am at a loss as to what the purpose of subsequent advice is. Why cloud the issue? It's an ordinary flint axe nine diode alternator. As an aside, the only part available for this machine is the regulator because it's a Lucas part. Rectifiers can be made by modifying a Lucas one but the problem is the unavailability of slip rings. If anyone should need one l am importing some from of all places South Africa!

Diddy?

I think I did. You are not trying hard enough Dr Bob. I bet you didn't read that book I gave you for Christmas either.

Haha. I mean, you've pretty much nailed it. Oh and shifting ballast in the dark is easier then in the light as the neighbours won't noticing their crazy paving missing till the morning...

I have a booklet named 'Lost canals' It has a bit on the Leominster canal, and a map

Its an A127 and the two large blades are used on vehicles so one blade charges the battery while the other feeds the loads. This forms a junction that on a boat is often on the starter pos. It also reduces the current through each blade with high loads and a low battery. For marine use they fitted the stud B+ connection so the large blades and the stud are the same. Use the stud, the blades are likely to overheat and cause a bit of voltdrop. I think the aux is simply a blade riveted to the pos diode plate and on vehicles it was for a radio suppressor connection. The small blade close to the two large ones is the warning lamp connection.

Hang on guys. All this levity in a thread about another missing presumed dead, boater. What if a relative reads it?

As I understand the eligability to vote as a volunteer, first you must be a registered C&RT volunteer. I think this implies that if you go to my trust page on the C&RT website, that you have a link to my volunteering. This is the route by which one can claim your expenses, and inspect your training records, amongst other things. You also need to have been logged having given some hours work to the trust in the last 12 months as an individual, however hours given working for Council, Partnerships and Advisory groups do not count, for some reason. Also groups like task forces where the hours are logged against the task force not the individual, also cause exclusion. Council has been attempting to come up with a workable solution to this particular problem, but its not as easy as it sounds, due to the Ad-hoc nature of task groups. If you think you have had hours recorded as an invividual in the last 12 months and have not recieved a vote its probably worth an email to council@canalrivertrust.org.uk

Doesn't the CRT van carry spare water to refill empty pounds?

You are always bringing weird women into the conversation

You wouldn't believe how hard they are 'hammered in' (using a 28lb hammer). No it doesn't crack the fibreglass - fibreglass is tough stuff. My hull is 1" thick (2"+ around the keel) and weighs 10 tonnes exactly - probably heavier than a 36 foot NB with ballast. I have never yet seen one fall over - I guess the marinas don't want to get a reputation or an insurance history of letting boats fall over.

Yes but your credibility is shot. You also occasionally mention you think we should leave the EU, ISTR.

Just remember that those pretty roads that we use to get to the shops, work, cinema ro wherever were once just tracks across someone's lands. Driving up the M6 you only have permission to do so. And don't start on parking outside your own house . . . Looks like we will get a lot of that in the next few years. Always the consequence of a lack of proper scrutiny when one party is too dominant. It is not necessarily that the original idea is wrong but new legislation is notoriously hard to get right without causing undue unintended consequences.

The forms have been proofread and approved, the date is set in stone (23rd and 24th May as many have assumed) and the finish booked. Several here have suggested Withymoor with varying degrees of enthusiasm, and that's where it's going to be. Our reasons for choosing there this year include: They are keen to host us, which is always a positive from the organisers point of view They are going to have a bar all weekend and food available It will encourage more boats to travel to "the back of the map", and covering more of the BCN is the primary aim of the challenge. They have also offered to move their own boats so we can all fit in breasted 2 or 3 up, so there should be plenty of room for us. Participation is open to everyone who has a valid C&RT license, whether you've done it before, the more the merrier (especially after we all get to the bar!) I can't upload the files here, but email me on bcnschallenge@gmail.com and I'll send them out. Now I wonder who's going to be first to ask for a form? Sue

If you are serious then perhaps you are a bit more than a single step beyond!