Leaderboard

Sometimes our changing world really disappoints - a pal of mine has just recently cruised along the Crick summit and there are now 4 fat boats "cruising" the Crick Summit - the new North Kilworth Marina are putting them in and off they go - is it just me but how do they qualify as continuous cruisers ??? The sad thing is that, now there are 4, others will surely follow far more readily - CRT wont do anything so soon there will be no leisure moorings in the popular areas. Dunchurch Pools is bad enough (encouraging fattys on the north Oxford) but surely a marina on a narrow canal with NO appropriate access/egress points for fat boats shouldn't be allowed to crane them in. Don't marinas have to get consent from CRT to connect to the system so why cant this consent be conditioned CRT really need to get on top of this otherwise every pound in the country with a craning in facility will have a fat boat cruiser on it who will claim they can't move Don't get me wrong I'm NOT against fat boats in the right location but surely that isn't a narrow canal with narrow locks! I have posted this on the part II version of this topic as well but in view of the posts above about North Kilworth Marina I thought it better here - just reflect on the comments that"this wont happen", "this cant happen", "they cant go anywhere" etc - FYI - It HAS happened and this is just the beginning - write to CRT about it and esp this marinas involvement - IMHO don't make it personal its not about the people its about the issue and CRT's response to it!!

This all puts me in mind of the apocryphal tale of the blowhard American visiting Ireland and in a small southern Irish village he stopped a local and asked where the railway station was. The Irishman pointed at the road out of the village and said "its about a mile along there, Sorr..." The blowhard Yank expostulated and said "That's a ridiculous place to put the railway station. A mile out of the village? Why did you put it there and not here, in the village??" The Irishman thought about it for a minute, then replied with that impeccable Irish logic we all know and love. "Well Sorr, we thought about dat for a while, but decided in the end it would be better to put it next to the railway line..."

Not only is there an argument - in my view there ought to be an obligation. At the very least any responsible citizen ought to accept that in this country, we expect everyone to pay in so that all may enjoy the services that are provided. It is simply the way it works. Some folk do not have children but they contribute to schools, some people are spared the affliction that is mental illness, but all pay for mental health services. Those who do not pay for the services provided by Local Authorities benefit - even if they do not realise or value what is provided. Those who do not contribute are benefit cheats.

I knew you would be typing franticaly so I stuck the knife in ? The man who invented autocorrect has just died. May he roast in piss.

Well as someone who has had 2 tyres round the prop and just managed to grab one in a lock mouth before it sank, lost off a wide beam coming through the lock, I think the should be ban on the inland waterways Floating wheels are different as they float so if they get pulled off can be retrieved.

Does the Hobbit need installing on a middle hearth? (gets coat and leaves quietly) ?

This seems very unsatisfactory to me. Many adults live quite legally in properties where the council tax payer is someone else. Grown up kids still living at home. Shared houses. New partners etc.

Well, if you did it with no clothes on, and the unicorn sank, you'd be Lady Go-diver! ?

Looks like a Jp1, or 9/1. The CS has external push rods, I'm not sure what else is different. I rebuilt the top end of one for a friend and it was a nice little engine.

Fixed that for you.

Rivet counting in a different context: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-shropshire-43036128/old-steam-engine-talisman-recreated-from-scratch https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/shrewsbury/2018/11/05/talismans-tour-will-celebrate-firms-big-birthday/

We have just recieved an email from Euro Tunnel with advice from Defra that pets wishing to travel after 29th March 2019 should get their pets vaccinated four months prior to travel. So with our April departure in mind we have booked Sydney in to get his jab and his pet passport next Tuesday evening.

It,s a real shame that there really is little liklihood of the restoration of the Inclined Plane at Foxton, despite all the excellent work by the volunteers and trust members. If it had been possible then there might have been a prospect of the Watford Locks being rebuilt to a broader guage, which would have given the required link for wider GRP cruiser type boats to travel from the Southern Canals up to the Northern network without the need to tackle the Norfolk coast. But as a narrowboater who loves the Leicester Summit, and who has seen just how vulnerable the bridges and infrastructure are, I am somewhat saddened at the prospect of it becoming a wide beam resort.

Looking at that Met Office Amber weather warning Alan, I would stay indoors for a while.

That and the cost. When VRSLA's first came out engineers in BT knew in the first 3 years that the more expensive batteries with thicker, pure lead plates significantly outlasted the cheaper batteries with thinner lead calcium plates, which were initially failing in 1-5 years. However it took 20 years of premature battery failures and the bankruptcy of the then major battery manufacturers, Chloride and Tungstone through numerous warranty claims before the accountants finally allowed the purchase of Yuasa pure lead plated batteries (Gates and Rolls are slightly better but significantly more expensive). These last 6-10 years typically. Incidentally insurance companies initially refused to cover buildings which were trialling Lithium Ion batteries, because of the fire risk associated with the well publicised battery failures on the Boeing 787. Eventually Lithium Ion batteries were rejected on cost grounds as they offered no advantage over VRSLA'S for standby power use where the batteries only need to cover generator start time (20-30 seconds) if the generator starts or up to 1 hour if it doesn't and recharge time is pretty much irrelevant unless you are unlucky to suffer 2 mains failures with generators also failing to start in say a 24 hour period.

Can you send an electronic document to CRT by email? If no paper copy exists it would seem reasonable to expect them to accept it. Thanks - that's something I've learnt today, Unfortunately, it will get filed under "useless knowledge" for now, although others will find it much more relevant.

Perhaps that explains why it was suggested in a much earlier post that the equipment be located in a newly dug extension to the canal into the land owned by the OP.

Like Gin Gins - ginger choos

This may not be what you want to hear, but it is not difficult to 'take responsibility' for your actions, you already have the equipment to tell you what you need to know, all you have to do is look at it. Why involve further complicated equipment that is just another potential fail point in the system ?. So, the lights, fridge, water pump & TV goes off whilst watching the 10 O'clock news, what are you going to do ? You cannot run the engine, you have no solar power just go to bed and wait until the next morning. Alternatively - 'manage' (in the proper sense of the word) you electrical consumption and production.

May I just point out this is a load of old claptrap where canal boats are concerned? There is no such thing as ‘deep’ where CRT are concerned, so neither Poseidon nor Neptune get a look in. Even if they did, and took umbrage at your Asda fizzy wine, the gunwales of your sunken bote would still be visible above the water as the baseplate settles onto the mud. So rename it however you like. Hope that helps...

All you need is a hot water bottle and a length of string. Tie the string in a loop to the neck of the hot water bottle at a length that will allow it to rest in the small of your back whilst dangling from your neck by the loop. To omit uncomfortablness of the neck caused by the string loop a section of GoKart tyre can be placed over the Adams Apple to spread the load. Once the back Soother is in place normal clothes like pullovers, shirts, jacket, overcoat, mackintosh can be worn over it, you can then saunter or swagger about, go shopping ect with a lovely and warmly soothed back and nobody will even notice, but try to walk nice and straight and upright though and not emulate Quosimodo or you could be a laughig stocks.

It worked for us -- and the boat we bought was green (it isn't any more, but I disliked the imitation GWR colour scheme). Even "railroad station" would be preferable, but everyone knows the correct term is "railway station" or simply "station". Other sorts of station need adjectival nouns to identify them, but there is no need if it's a station. It's tautology, like saying "turn left at the Rose & Crown pub" -- what else would the Rose & Crown be?

And don't get me started on, ugh, train station.

As the only trustworthy readings do not need that information you could set it to anything. The readings it needs it for are known to be or become very misleading for most people (see fridge thread) and encourage people to ruin batteries.

It certainly wasn't simply that. Google search indicated weakness nausea and vomiting are symptoms of CO poisoning.

I loop the long line going back to the pontoon through the handle of a 5L water container. It keeps tension in the rope and keeps it off the gunwhale. Less danger of the rope rolling under feet too. A Waitrose water bottle shows that you are refined. Scuzzier brands are available.

Generally it is the mooring that is 'valued' as a boat is NORMALLY a Chattel. The council tax you pay is based on the value of the mooring NOT the value of the boat. A mooring in London could be valued at £200,000 and have a £10,000 boat on it. The council tax would (normally) be based on the £200,000 band. Do a VOA Search for "Practice Notes 7" where it breaks down how and when the boat value will be added to the mooring value. There are pages and pages of it, but here is a tate : 3.2 The Rating (Caravan and Boats) Act 1996 amends Section 66(3) & (4) with effect from 1 April 1990 so as to clarify when a caravan pitch or a boat mooring comprises domestic property. A copy of the relevant sections of the Act is attached to this Practice Note as Appendix 1. Broadly, a caravan pitch or boat mooring is domestic property when either: is occupied by a caravan or boat that is a sole or main residence of an individual, and therefore treated as a dwelling; or is an appurtenance enjoyed with other living accommodation (which is itself a dwelling) and is not a separate hereditament. a constructed or established pitch or mooring becomes occupied by a boat or caravan used as a sole or main residence, then the pitch or mooring will constitute domestic property ie a dwelling from that date. 3.3 Caravan pitches and boat moorings which when next in use will be domestic property S.66(5) of the LGFA 1988 provides that, “Property not in use is domestic if it appears that when next in use it will be domestic” Therefore a pitch or mooring which has no caravan or boat situated on it will not constitute domestic property, unless: it forms part of a larger hereditament which itself is domestic property i.e. house and grounds it is clear that when next in use this will be as the pitch for a caravan, or mooring for a boat, which is a sole or main residence. The most obvious instances when this is likely to occur are in the cases of marina and canal bank moorings occupied by mobile residential boats, a showman’s winter quarters or a gypsy caravan site. If a caravan and pitch which has been occupied as a sole or main residence becomes unoccupied it will nevertheless continue to be classed as domestic property (and therefore a dwelling) if, when next in use, it will form the sole or main residence of an individual. Accordingly, where a caravan sited on a residential caravan park is vacated and placed on the market for sale the entry should usually remain shown in the Council Tax Valuation List. The same will apply to mobile residential boats sold on their moorings when the status of domestic/non domestic property may need to be re-examined. It is not considered that a caravan brought to a pitch or a boat to a mooring should be regarded as a dwelling unless it is clear that its use will be as a sole or main residence. If not a sole or main residence, the property should be regarded as non-domestic and liable to be included as a separate hereditament in the rating list or as part of a larger hereditament. 6. Whether the value of the caravan or boat is to be included with the mooring in the Council Tax Valuation for Banding Purposes 6.1 Technically the boat or caravan is a chattel which will only become part of the hereditament if its presence has a sufficient degree of permanence to the land. 6.2 In London County Council v Wilkins (VO) 1954 (HL) the question of whether a chattel was rateable was considered. Lord Kilmur said that the test of rateability was whether there is evidence that the structures were enjoyed with the land and enhanced its value. He concluded that, “A chattel to be rateable must be rateable with the land on which it rests”. 6.3 The rateability of a caravan was specifically considered in Field Place Caravan Park Ltd v Harding (VO) 1966 (CA) when Lord Denning said, “Although a chattel is not a rateable hereditament by itself, nevertheless it may become rateable together with land, if it is placed on a piece of land and enjoyed with it in such circumstances and with such a degree of permanence that the chattel with the land can together be regarded as one unit of occupation.”

It is a Grey area but that statement is not actually correct. 28 days seems to be the 'key' number. 3.1.2 The need for planning permission for moorings used by vessels or floating structures in residential use As discussed earlier, various different types of vessels or floating structures may be in residential use; that is, in use as a person’s sole or main residence. The question that arises is whether the mooring of such a vessel requires planning permission as a material change in the use of land. The point at which the mooring of a residential boat on a waterway departs from an ancillary use of the waterway (which usually would not need planning permission) and moves to a material change to residential use (which usually would need planning permission) needs to be decided on the basis of fact and degree as well as the particular circumstances of a case. The use of the mooring for this purpose is not included in any of the classes prescribed in the Use Classes Order. It is therefore sui generis (not C3 Dwellinghouses). In this context it is also worth noting that planning permission is usually not required where the residential use of a mooring is for no more than 28 days in any calendar year, since such temporary use is permitted development under Part 4 of the GPDO13. Furthermore, occasional or extended holiday stays on a vessel may not, as a matter of fact and degree, be considered to amount to a material change of use i.e. to permanent residential use. A number of examples will illustrate the range of issues:  The use of a long-term mooring on a canal for the ‘parking’ and/or maintenance of a vessel between cruises will not usually require planning permission as such an activity is ordinarily ancillary or incidental to the use of the canal for navigation14. That will be so even if the vessel at the mooring is occasionally used for overnight stays.  Where, however, a vessel or floating structure (a) does not cruise or is incapable of cruising and (b) is used for residential purposes as a person’s sole or main residence, many local planning authorities will regard it as being materially different in nature or character from any previous non-residential use of the planning unit and/or, where appropriate, as having actually created a new planning unit. In such circumstances, it is likely that planning permission will be required for the residential use of the mooring.  More difficult may be the situation where a vessel is used for residential purposes, as a person’s sole or main residence, but does cruise regularly between stays amounting to more than 28 days at its mooring base. Whether there has been a material change of use in the location of the mooring will be a matter of fact and degree having regard to the planning unit and the nature or character of the previous and existing use.  Also more difficult is where a small number of vessels are used for residential purposes within a larger site of leisure moorings. Here the residential use may be difficult to distinguish from the leisure use, and the scale of environmental impact may be marginal in relation to the existing level of activity at the site or within the planning unit. Guidance - Type of Residential use : Residential use of a vessel at a designated location in winter but which continuously cruises in summer (i.e. seasonal cruisers). Need For Planning permission : On case by case basis Commentary : Planning permission may be required for any stay at a mooring longer than 28 days in any calendar year*. *This is where the C&RT Winter Moorings may actually contravene the law It is interesting that BWML do not limit the nights on board throughout the year EXCEPT to say that you must either leave the boat, or the boat leave the marina one night per month if you are a 'heavy user' on a leisure mooring. This obviously does not apply to those on residential moorings. 3.1.5 Failure to obtain planning permission: Planning Enforcement A mooring operator should always make clear to the boater, as part of the mooring agreement, the planning designation of the mooring (and hence the permitted use) and that they are responsible for complying with local authority planning requirements. Where the local planning authority believes there is unauthorised residential use and there has been a breach of planning control, either by the carrying out of development without planning permission or the carrying out of development in breach of a planning condition, they may consider it ‘expedient’ to commence enforcement proceedings. The relevant powers are set out in Part VII of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990. A number of parties may become involved in resolving cases of unauthorised residential use of moorings:  The local planning authority;  The mooring operator (in some cases, this might be the navigation authority);  The navigation authority (where there are navigational issues);  The occupier of the houseboat or floating structure; and  The local authority as housing and environmental health authority. The local planning authority should first contact the mooring operator, if necessary through the navigation authority, in order to seek to resolve the issue. They may serve a planning enforcement notice upon the owner or occupier of the land and on any other person having an interest in the land, which may include the occupier of the vessel or structure, the mooring operator, the landowner and the navigation authority, requiring the unauthorised use to cease.

It may also be the joint between the end of the water cooled manifold and silencer, they corrode on the gasket faces.

Thank you all so much for your valuable input. After all that, I bought a 2017 25' Aintree Beetle moored at Pyrford Marina! Now I just need to find a waterways map I can download to my iPad, having trouble finding a Nicholson's but there must be something I can download that shows me the whole network!