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Yeah Athy, leave him alone - it's not his volt. (Power mad, some of joule lot)

It's what people do when faced with a terrible experience (there but for the Grace of God), we make light of the 'thing' that's scary. I doubt very much any comment meant disrespect to the horrible experience the poor boaters went through. That said... I'm logging off now!

I once saw a boater coming out of his front doors with a cassette, as he put his foot on the icy gunnel, he slipped and smashed the cassette which emptied nicely into the well deck. I think this proves you can empty a cassette when your frozen in.

Although most prefer that you put it on the boat

It seems as though the material is indeed certified by WRAS for contact with human consumption water. It's nylon-textile reinforced EPDM 1.25mm thick sheeting. I took my old, punctured tank liner to their factory and we discussed how they were going to produce a bag to similar shape, and the aluminium skin fittings they'll use to pass the inlet, breather and outlet tails. Manufacture time is about 4 weeks. It's a bit of a drag living out of bottles, but tolerable as we're on a marina berth. Probably going to have to do a bit of hole enlargement in a steel bulkhead to accommodate a slightly higher outlet pipe, but otherwise can't wait to get the new liner fitted!

My immersion has been on constantly for the past few days, as is always the case if I'm onboard at my mooring. There has never been the slightest issue, it doesn't spit water out of the PRV, and I have instant access to replenishing hot water. The electricity use is not excessive either. Maybe there's a few pence to be saved by faffing about heating the tank, turning the immersion off, then heating the tank again in advance of next time you need hot water, but I doubt it's much as the Surecal calorifier tank is pretty well insulated. It wasn't as "stupid of you" as you think to leave it on whilst you went out, so stop beating yourself up. You have a design issue or a fault - this problem has helped you discover that and once it's sorted all will be well, you'll have reliable hot water, and you'll know more about your boat.

I wood do the same.

Well, that's yew.

Have to be honest,if it was my boat which had been damaged in what must have been a frightening experience-I don't think I would have been amused by the 'jokey' comments.

Is that like a Squirrel that has all of its adult feathers?

Soooo agree with this as get fed up with whinging,spoilt brats demanding attention.It's sad,but there seem to be more badly behaved youngsters than little treasures these days.Sorry if your offspring are little angels in public places,we just don't seem destined to meet them ! PS we like the idea of pubs being for adults at night !

No. You pay the money and the boat is yours. You sail away in it. The second of those three points should be the third. You pay the money. You take possession of the boat. He buys a new boat. Where he lives in the mean time is not your problem.

Actually our recently rebuilt HA2 smokes very little from cold. I certainly would in no way say it has to get up to working temperature, (however you define that on an air cooled engine!), before it runs pretty clean. If an air-cooled Lister is in tip top condition you don't get a lot of smoke at any temperature, except for the brief burst whenever you wind it on, (which is fuel, not oil). I'm also finding I have to put no oil in it (at all) between oil changes, so if it is using any, it is not enough to notice. Most air cooled Listers in narrow boats are not in tip top condition, though, of course.......

Look on you tube at the old classic/working/historic boats with the vintage diesels, all smokers until they get to working temp, some beyond that. Older engines have different tolerances than the newer stuff so they burn a small amount of oil and are a bit smokey when cold, thats how they are.

and while we're enjoying ourselves in the pub, or tucked up in bed, Rich I expect will be at his computer upgrading this site, just to minimise any disruption to us. Thank you Rich!?

Well I'm sticking up for the victim boater....

I suggest that a more accurate title would be hydrologistics manager, as it is about the management, rather than the study, of water but that would be even more pretentious. But as everyone who remembers the BT adverts will recall, 'if you've got an ...ology, you're a scientist', so I guess the more pretentious the better, is the current thinking when it comes to job titles.

We bravely laugh at our own misfortune. Rather bad taste to laugh at others don't you think? I understand no one was hurt which is fortunate. I hope the damage sustained was superficial. It must have been terrifying, nothing you can do even if you see it falling. Rog

Thinking about this, either your water pump is set to too high a pressure or your PRV is faulty. What *should* have happened is your calorifier PRV should have vented maybe a litre or two of hot water overboard to relieve the pressure, then just sat there hot with the immersion kicking in and out on the thermostat to keep the water at about 80 degrees. If your calorifier constantly pumps hot water overboard when the immersion heater is on there is something wrong with the system.

We're always losing keys and stuff and I went into a certain chandlery in the south west and asked for a handcuff key, blank look. I tried again, what about an anti vandal key? But I was still getting that look you know the sort of look you often get in a builders merchants when you don't know the exact correct name for some fitting or whatever. So I described what the thing was for and her eyes lit up oh, you mean a conservation key she exclaimed. For pity's sake.

I suspect culprit is the generator. Inverter generators work by using high frequency pulse modulation, which is stepped up in voltage and smoothed to remove, in theory all frequencies other than the 50Hz fundamental, however some harmonics will remain. The generator is at the cheaper end of the spectrum so I suspect more of these are getting through. There are various papers on the internet about how RCD's respond to these higher frequencies, some suggest they may trio at a lower current. The RF suppression in the inverter and maybe other equipment my also be passing some hf current to earth.

My two pennies worth - this is quite possibly a 'one-off' and whilst unacceptable, you state that the builders are 'on it' and hopefully, with a truly apologetic attitude. If so, naming them could show that they do indeed give a level of customer aftersales care that they no doubt proclaim. Given that mistakes can and do happen in all walks of life, is it not possible that by naming them, their quick response, attitude and resolution would offset any negativity that could influence future customers?

As do most of us I'm sure…………………... Give me a pub with dogs rather than "little darlings" any day

Great. No. No point as you’ve already done it at the other end of the cable as above. No. No point as it’s already achieved by answer 1. Yes

Pump and sponges will be fine. I must try nappies sometime. A bone dry bilge is a thing of beauty, and provided your cabin bilge is separated from the foredeck and stern areas should be perfectly achievable. I don't think anyone has posted this list, so here goes, for possible water sources: leak in domestic water system, between tank and pump leak in domestic water system, at or after pump (my most recent leak was the pump itself) pressure release valve, on hot water system, venting into the bilges rather than overbooard leak on sink wastes shower tray, or shower waste pump leak hatches, mushroom vents, windows, aerials, fender eyes, or any other holes in the roof (NB the water will appear inside the boat in a completely different place) condensation pets deciding your inspection hatches would make a nice toilet improperly installed skin fittings, taking in water when under way or in rough water (on our first boat the self draining holes for the foredeck were below the waterline at full throttle). The attached photo shows a situation that might have led to some water ingress and, last but not least, a hole in the hull, below the water line.

That's the genny cable - because you (and others) rightly told him never to use that one as a shorepower cable ...

That shore cable. The one which connects the genny to the boat.

Maybe they need to use more CAD to design the boats ...

Battery warranties are not worth the paper they are written on , if in fact they are written on a piece of paper ! The only time i ever had a battery replaced under warranty was when I bought one that came with a lifetime guarantee providing I kept the car. Which I did for a good many years. I tried to return a dud leisure battery to a local marina a couple of years ago which was weak after one year. Its partner in the same bank ,bought at the same time was fine and remains in use. But I received a blunt refusal with the blame firmly placed with me. After that I decided to go with the cheapest supplier rather than a local retailer. Oddly enough the cheaper batteries have performed better than the more expensive batteries thay replaced since I think one of the previous pair was probably not a great performer from new . The cheap batteries and remain fine.......... so far. Not sure I would have given a thought to charging voltage . The charger automatically takes care of that . A lot of fuss about nothing.

I wonder what sort of toilets they use in the spaceships whirling around the planet. Cassettes wouldn't last long. There must be tons and tons of poo and pee flying around in orbit if sea type of lav's are in use. I believe there's a spaceship up there, one called ''Sky Lav'' a kind of mobile public convenience I suppose for the gastronaughts to stop at and use, but how is it emptied. There are loads of folk there who spend weeks and weeks up there researching and studying things, what do they do. Is there a travelling pump out service operated by someone like they do on canals.