50 amp generator

[Ex- Member]

Just spotted this on e-bay, I think Sterling did something similar a couple of years ago, anyone out there using this type unit?

http://www.ebay.co.u...#ht_5579wt_1154

 

ETA I found their website, tricky to navigate and slow but more info available. British made unit as well.

 

www.thesupercharger.co.uk

Edited March 23, 2012 by Julynian

[Proper Job]

It's not exactly a Honda EU20 that they compare it with though.

 

It's a very neat package of a 50A alternator coupled to a 50cc engine and a regulator.

 

I couldn't actually make out the charge voltage and if you could adjust it?

[Ex- Member]

It's not exactly a Honda EU20 that they compare it with though.

 

It's a very neat package of a 50A alternator coupled to a 50cc engine and a regulator.

 

I couldn't actually make out the charge voltage and if you could adjust it?

 

 

I think their comparing the amps output. There's a chart on their site with some voltage info in the photo gallery explaining the volts output depending on the volts the battery actually holds. I think LOL

 

Would be handy if they developed a gas conversion kit for it. I would be tempted except I won't have petrol on the boat.

 

I wonder what make engine it is too?

 

 

[Proper Job]

The math on re-charging time is complete bollox as well. It assumes that you put in 50A all of the time through out the charge time

[blodger]

Overpriced for an engine and alternator combo IMHO; the neatness is not worth it

[Sir Nibble]

That's not a 50A alternator. 45 tops.

[Chalky]

It's a lot for what it is. I've got a spare lawnmower engine and alternator waiting for me to get round to linking them up.

[Proper Job]

Having had a look at the web site (god..... it's slow)

 

There is so much that alarms me about this.

 

How can you compare it to a Honda EU 20? The 12v output on the Honda isn't for battery charging, it's for low powered 12v appliances

 

What 240 standard charger is used as a comparison?

 

There is so much useful information they could give that they haven't

 

"If used in conjunction with an inverter (which converts 12 volt dc battery power to 240 volt ac) the SUPERCHARGER can quickly replace battery power in minutes NOT hours enabling the inverter to supply all your power requirements"

 

What the heck does that mean????!!!!

 

Lots of weasel words and no hard facts as far as I can see.

 

It's a lot of money for a cheapo Chinese engine and an A127 alternator

[WotEver]

I couldn't actually make out the charge voltage and if you could adjust it?

Their site states:

Charge controlled means that the voltage output is controlled to maximize the charging efficiency into the battery ie, to prevent over charging and possible damage to the battery.

 

I guess that means it simply uses the alternator's onboard regulator.

 

Tony

[Proper Job]

.....

 

I guess that means it simply uses the alternator's onboard regulator.

 

Tony

I think that's a fair assumption

[mrsmelly]

Having had a look at the web site (god..... it's slow)

 

There is so much that alarms me about this.

 

How can you compare it to a Honda EU 20? The 12v output on the Honda isn't for battery charging, it's for low powered 12v appliances

 

What 240 standard charger is used as a comparison?

 

There is so much useful information they could give that they haven't

 

"If used in conjunction with an inverter (which converts 12 volt dc battery power to 240 volt ac) the SUPERCHARGER can quickly replace battery power in minutes NOT hours enabling the inverter to supply all your power requirements"

 

What the heck does that mean????!!!!

 

Lots of weasel words and no hard facts as far as I can see.

 

It's a lot of money for a cheapo Chinese engine and an A127 alternator

 

It must be good cos its written in different colours and he has loadsa 100% feedback

[Tony Brooks]

Having had a look at the web site (god..... it's slow)

 

There is so much that alarms me about this.

 

How can you compare it to a Honda EU 20? The 12v output on the Honda isn't for battery charging, it's for low powered 12v appliances

 

What 240 standard charger is used as a comparison?

 

There is so much useful information they could give that they haven't

 

"If used in conjunction with an inverter (which converts 12 volt dc battery power to 240 volt ac) the SUPERCHARGER can quickly replace battery power in minutes NOT hours enabling the inverter to supply all your power requirements"

 

What the heck does that mean????!!!!

 

Lots of weasel words and no hard facts as far as I can see.

 

It's a lot of money for a cheapo Chinese engine and an A127 alternator

 

 

Not even an A127 - its an old fashioned ACR and I do not recall many (any) having a 50 amp output.

[Proper Job]

It must be good cos its written in different colours and he has loadsa 100% feedback

I particularly like the Exterminator: link. It's rocket science - a bi product of NASA technolgy

 

I think the EA need a bulk purchase for the river Nene. They could do away with all of the weed cutting boats.

Edited March 23, 2012 by Proper Job

[WotEver]

Not even an A127 - its an old fashioned ACR and I do not recall many (any) having a 50 amp output.

Not quite true Tony. I know the 25ACR type had a 75A output. There was also a 23ACR which I believe was 55A.

 

Tony

[Tony Brooks]

Not quite true Tony. I know the 25ACR type had a 75A output. There was also a 23ACR which I believe was 55A.

 

Tony

 

Fair enough, I was mainly messing about with the 35 odd amp version.

[Grace and Favour]

Not even an A127 - its an old fashioned ACR and I do not recall many (any) having a 50 amp output.

 

 

I particularly like the Exterminator: link. It's rocket science - a bi product of NASA technolgy

 

I think the EA need a bulk purchase for the river Nene. They could do away with all of the weed cutting boats.

 

Which all goes to prove that one doesn't need to be overly clever to make money . . just put a reasonable idea into producing a mediocre product, and bullshine up the marketing blurb.

 

I wonder if any of his actual customers will take the trouble to measure the output of his 50A magic machine, and complain to Trading Standards?

[Proper Job]

Which all goes to prove that one doesn't need to be overly clever to make money . . just put a reasonable idea into producing a mediocre product, and bullshine up the marketing blurb.

 

I wonder if any of his actual customers will take the trouble to measure the output of his 50A magic machine, and complain to Trading Standards?

I like the "Super quiet exhaust muffler", but it never actually states any real facts about how 'quiet' it is (or not)

[Ex- Member]

I like the "Super quiet exhaust muffler", but it never actually states any real facts about how 'quiet' it is (or not)

 

I did read on their site somewhere 56db at 7 metres or 54 cant remember;

[Taslim]

It's a lot for what it is. I've got a spare lawnmower engine and alternator waiting for me to get round to linking them up.

 

Getting an alternator up to speed on a 4stroke lawnmower engine is going to need belts & pulleys? I put together a dynamo (ex Morris Minor) & Suffolk Colt motor directly coupled via a short length of air hose clamped with Jubilee clips. Regulation is the Lucas 'black box' from the donor Morris. With its' tweaked silencer it is relatively quiet, provides two outputs as one regulator output feeds the battery's while the other feed ancillary stuff and has served well for a long time.

 

The commercial gen set is 2stroke petroil lube so PLG conversion not posible.

 

taslim.

[onionbargee]

These have been around for years, used to be made in Australia, it says 1800 rpm, but that engine looks like a GX50 copy (on a direct drive), which is 2.1 hp @ 7000 rpm, 2 hp would get you around 40 amps, and a standard 12v alternator acheives maximum output at something like 7000 rpm. It don't add up to me.

 

Get a 1960's Honda E1500, they are belt drive and all you need to do is change the ac alternator to an automotive one. ( it just so happens i have one on my repair bench right now, soon to be for sale )

[PEAGREEN]

]Hi, have just received an e-mail from the Supercharger generator people who tell me that they will be producing a petrol/LPG version in a couple of weeks. Makes it a bit more interesting.

 

Keith

[Arthur Brown]

For boat purposes this product is seriously flawed. It's petrol and it's limited to 50A

 

Realistically a small diesel engine supplying 100A would be just as easy and much more boater friendly. Having it properly automated and silenced would be even better. One reasonable diesel could run two 175 alternators.

[Eeyore]

Having had a look at the web site (god..... it's slow)

 

There is so much that alarms me about this.

 

How can you compare it to a Honda EU 20? The 12v output on the Honda isn't for battery charging, it's for low powered 12v appliances

 

What 240 standard charger is used as a comparison?

 

There is so much useful information they could give that they haven't

 

"If used in conjunction with an inverter (which converts 12 volt dc battery power to 240 volt ac) the SUPERCHARGER can quickly replace battery power in minutes NOT hours enabling the inverter to supply all your power requirements"

 

What the heck does that mean????!!!!

 

Lots of weasel words and no hard facts as far as I can see.

 

It's a lot of money for a cheapo Chinese engine and an A127 alternator

It gets better!

They now advertise this in "Towpath" and even have a review.

The technical detail in the ad makes very little sense, but is still in pretty colours like thier website

[onionbargee]

 

 

This was sold in Austalia, but was withdrawn because of a 40 % fail rate, looked good though. They also sell a 70 A petrol charger, sidewinder.com.au

[tubby]

I have used the 50amp supercharger for 4 months now and all I can say it does what they claim and most certainly does not run at 7000rp and it is quiet about 60db.... when batteries are below eleven volts the unit puts out almost 50amps and then reduces as the battery charges.... in my opinion it works just like my vehicle..my honda generator instruction book tells me that the 12v out put is for battery charging but takes hours ..this charges as fast as an alternator should .my advise is dont knock it till you have tried it !!!!!